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For a certain vintage of gamer who grew up painting and playing Warhammer at the local mall\u2019s Games Workshop, one color of paint stands out from the rest: Goblin Green.<\/p>\n

The color, somewhere between a subtle olive green and a vibrant grassy green, wasn\u2019t only essential for those collecting an army of orcs and goblins.<\/p>\n

It could be found on the bases of nearly every miniature in the mid-1990s to early 2000s, whether they were destined for the grassy plains of Warhammer Fantasy Battle or a derelict space station in Warhammer 40,000.<\/p>\n

\u201cThe majority of the bases that you saw […] were these green bases, square or round, that have Goblin Green painted around the rim of the base, Goblin Green over the texture, which was like PVA glue and sand and maybe some rocks, and then, like, a yellow drybrush over top,\u201d said Adam Abramowicz, marketing executive for the miniature paint company The Army Painter.<\/p>\n

\u201cThat was the base that we all knew and loved.\u201d<\/p>\n

Miniature bases have become more diverse over the years, including muddy fields or crumbled cobblestones with corresponding browns or grays on the rims.<\/p>\n

\u201cNow that wargaming has become a bit more gritty and realistic, I think people look back on Goblin Green quite fondly because it is a bit of a lurid color and it is a bit goofy,\u201d said mini-painting YouTuber and former Games Workshop presenter Louise Sugden.<\/p>\n

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But there\u2019s been a recent rise in interest in the \u201990s and early 2000s era of Warhammer, unofficially known as Oldhammer or Middlehammer, thanks in part to videos from gaming or miniature influencers online. Games Workshop has also picked up on this, recently reviving its Fantasy Battle range in the form of Warhammer: The Old World<\/em>.<\/p>\n

One problem, though: Games Workshop\u2019s line of paints, Citadel Colour, has changed significantly over the years, with completely different shades and names since the \u201990s. That means you won\u2019t find a brand-new bottle of Goblin Green for sale at a Games Workshop store.<\/p>\n

Even though other hobby paint brands have similar greens\u00a0\u2014 some even with the same name \u2014 none offer an exact color match, which has only helped build the legend of the fan-favorite shade.<\/p>\n

When U.K.-based YouTuber Kevin McCullough recently returned to the hobby after falling off around the 2000s, he found that his \u201ciconic\u201d Goblin Green was nowhere to be found.<\/p>\n

\u201cI bought Citadel\u2019s Warboss [Green] and sort of started painting with that, and it just didn\u2019t look the same,\u201d he told Polygon.<\/p>\n

\"A<\/p>\n

On his YouTube channel, he compared other brands\u2019 Goblin Greens over three videos to see if any were closer to the original than Warboss Green, which leans more on the blueish side.<\/p>\n

He found that retro-themed brands like Warcolours and Coat d\u2019Arms came the closest \u2014 but still concluded that the original triumphed as his favorite.<\/p>\n

Goblin Green\u2019s ubiquity can be traced back to before Warhammer became a household name, as the hobby grew out of U.K. historical gaming circles. Tables lined with green playmats hosted reenactments from the War of the Roses before pitched battles between elves and vampires.<\/p>\n

No true Goblin Green?<\/strong><\/h2>\n

Strictly speaking, there isn\u2019t one single color that can be called Goblin Green.<\/p>\n

If you closely examine the bases of miniatures in dioramas of old Warhammer rulebooks or catalogs, you\u2019ll notice that many of them are slightly different shades of green.<\/p>\n

In addition to variables like photography, lighting, and inconsistent color printing, it was likely due to irregularities in the paint itself, according Duncan Rhodes, a mini-painting tutorial YouTuber and former presenter for Games Workshop.<\/p>\n

If a tin of paint was left to settle or separate slightly longer, or not stirred enough before going out to market, the tone might be slightly off.<\/p>\n

\u201cThat\u2019s quite possibly why you see when other companies do Goblin Green colors, even if they may have originally attempted to color match it to the original paint, there\u2019s probably going to be subtle differences,\u201d he told Polygon.<\/p>\n

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Over the years, Games Workshop has also used different companies to produce its paint, each with slightly different colors even if they had the same name.<\/p>\n

At least as far back as the mid-1990s, U.K.-based HMG Paints made GW\u2019s paints. In 1998, it reportedly switched to a supplier in France. The French Goblin Green is slightly bluer than HMG\u2019s yellower tone, and closer in hue to the modern Warboss Green.<\/p>\n

What exactly goes into the paints remains a mystery. Unlike artist paint lines like Winsor & Newton and Golden, which list individual color pigments in their products, most mini paint lines do not disclose their color formulations.<\/p>\n

A representative from HMG declined to comment about its current and past miniature paints, saying its partnerships are protected under nondisclosure agreements.<\/p>\n

Color matching<\/strong><\/h2>\n

The difficulty of finding a perfect match to a classic paint might come down to the changing priorities of these paint companies, rather than technical difficulties.<\/p>\n

\u201cWe could very easily match the original Goblin Green [at The Army Painter]. If somebody had a bottle of it and sent it to us, we could match it 100%,\u201d said Abramowicz.<\/p>\n

\u201cNow, nailing it and matching every color with the performance benefits and characteristics that we want? That\u2019s a different story.\u201d<\/p>\n

\"A<\/p>\n

Modern paints tend to prioritize opacity, meaning even a novice painter can get even coverage of any color in one to two thin coats over a neutral undercoat like white, black, or gray.<\/p>\n

That often involves adding opaque pigments like titanium white \u2014 which also knocks back the paint\u2019s vibrancy, sometimes resulting in a color that\u2019s slightly grayish or pastel.<\/p>\n

The \u201990s Citadel paints \u2014 including Goblin Green \u2014 were generally brighter and more vibrant than many modern paints. But they were often nearly transparent, needing several coats to avoid a streaky finish.<\/p>\n

The curious case of Coat d\u2019Arms<\/strong><\/h2>\n

If you ask gamers for a Goblin Green paint that\u2019s closest to the original, many will bring up a U.K. brand called Coat d\u2019Arms, with some even claiming it\u2019s the exact same paint with a new label.<\/p>\n

The truth is a little more complicated.<\/p>\n

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According to Mike Lewis, who owned Coat d\u2019Arms from 2006 until his retirement last July, the brand was started by Bill Lucas, who used to work for Games Workshop before starting his own company, Gladiator Games.<\/p>\n

Lucas went to HMG to produce a line of historical wargames paints. But it happened to be the \u201990s, right after Games Workshop ended its relationship with HMG.<\/p>\n

\u201cAs I understand it, the guy at HMG said to Bill, \u2018We\u2019ve got all this paint that we used to make for Games Workshop. They\u2019re moving away. Do you want it?\u2018\u201d recalled Lewis in an interview with Polygon.<\/p>\n

\u201cSo the first 43 colors in the Coat d\u2019Arms fantasy range were based on the colors from the original Games Workshop 1990s fantasy range. And over the years they added extra colors.\u201d<\/p>\n

Goblin Green has remained the top-selling Coat d\u2019Arms paint, sometimes by 10 to one compared to other colors, Lewis said.<\/p>\n

But despite the shared history, new bottles of Coat d\u2019Arms paint aren\u2019t exactly the same as those from the \u201990s. Lewis said the formulas have changed over time, in part because some ingredients have become more scarce over the years, requiring alternatives to be used.<\/p>\n

It may be unsatisfying to learn that it may be impossible to perfectly recreate the Goblin Green of a gamer\u2019s 1990s-tinted dreams. But as Lewis recalls, the idea of a consistent color is more fantasy than reality to begin with.<\/p>\n

When his predecessor, Bill Lucas, went to HMG for his Second World War range of paints, he learned that the very same company painted the British Army\u2019s tanks during the war.<\/p>\n

The catch? The shade of green used for those tanks differed month to month, depending on available materials at the time.<\/p>\n

\u201cI always found it amusing because there\u2019s always arguments about what kind of color bronze-green should be. And they worried about whatever they could get ahold of,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n

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Jonathan Ore<\/a> is a writer and editor for CBC Radio Digital in Toronto. He regularly covers the video games industry for CBC Radio programs across the country and has also covered arts and entertainment, technology, and the games industry for CBC News. You can read and listen to his radio documentary about Warhammer 40K here<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n

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For a certain vintage of gamer who grew up painting and playing Warhammer at the local mall\u2019s Games Workshop, one color of paint stands out from the rest: Goblin Green. The color, somewhere between a subtle olive green and a vibrant grassy green, wasn\u2019t only essential for those collecting an army of orcs and goblins. It could be found on the bases of nearly every miniature in the mid-1990s to early 2000s, whether they were destined for the grassy plains of Warhammer Fantasy Battle or a derelict space station in Warhammer 40,000. \u201cThe majority of the bases that you saw […] were these green bases, square or round, that have Goblin Green painted around the rim of the base, Goblin Green over the texture, which…<\/p>\n

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