{"id":962920,"date":"2026-01-03T03:03:18","date_gmt":"2026-01-03T03:03:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/?p=449126"},"modified":"2026-01-03T03:03:19","modified_gmt":"2026-01-03T03:03:19","slug":"deadpool-wolverine-bids-farewell-to-the-experimental-superhero-movie-era","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/arcader.org\/news\/deadpool-wolverine-bids-farewell-to-the-experimental-superhero-movie-era\/","title":{"rendered":"Deadpool &#038; Wolverine bids farewell to the experimental superhero movie era"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure> <img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" data-caption=\"\" data-portal-copyright=\"\" data-has-syndication-rights=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/deadpool-wolverine-bids-farewell-to-the-experimental-superhero-movie-era.jpg\" \/><figcaption><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"has-drop-cap has-text-align-none\"><em>Deadpool &amp; Wolverine <\/em>serves as the official, final nail in the coffin of 20th Century Fox\u2019s Marvel movies, and the welcome party that brings Deadpool and the X-Men into the Marvel Cinematic Universe. But there&#8217;s more to the movie than Deadpool <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/review\/24204724\/deadpool-and-wolverine-review-mcu-x-men\">mocking the MCU<\/a> and calling himself \u201cMarvel Jesus,\u201d come to save the Avengers. And there\u2019s more to it than <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/24216243\/deadpool-and-wolverine-censored-disney\">transgressive humor<\/a> and over-the-top violence. It\u2019s also a moderately poignant goodbye letter to&nbsp; an entire era of superhero-movie experimentation that\u2019s now dead and gone.<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">[<strong>Ed. note: <\/strong>Small spoilers ahead for some of <em>Deadpool &amp; Wolverine<\/em>\u2019s cameo appearances.]<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/deadpool-wolverine-bids-farewell-to-the-experimental-superhero-movie-era-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" data-has-syndication-rights=\"1\" data-caption=\"\" data-portal-copyright=\"\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">While <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/24209959\/deadpool-wolverine-hugh-jackman-best-part-logan\">Hugh Jackman\u2019s return to Wolverine<\/a> in <em>Deadpool &amp; Wolverine<\/em> was wisely advertised and expected, the various 20th Century Fox Marvel cameos are surprising because they\u2019re celebrating characters who weren\u2019t celebrated in their time. The reappearance of Jennifer Garner as Elektra or Chris Evans as the Human Torch aren\u2019t triumphant returns for iconic movie characters. Other than Wesley Snipes\u2019 Blade, from the movie that <a href=\"https:\/\/movieweb.com\/blade-marvel-movie-most-important-of-all-time\">proved Marvel superheroes could launch successful movies<\/a>, and X-23 from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/2017\/2\/17\/14611204\/logan-review\"><em>Logan<\/em><\/a>, the movie that tried to give Fox\u2019s X-Men<em> <\/em>franchise a poignant ending, we mostly get cameos of characters from massive flops, and one from a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/22914878\/gambit-marvel-channing-tatum-movie-fox-disney\">movie that never even got made<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">The cameos are a reminder of an era when superhero movies weren\u2019t concerned with building larger universes or supporting sprawling multimedia empires. Filmmakers were forced to experiment with every new superhero movie, trying to find a believable look, a winning story formula, and an approach that was unique enough to stand out and be memorable.<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">In 2024, it seems like that experimentation has ended, at least for Marvel movies. Disney and Marvel Studios <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/23603081\/disney-marvel-release-schedule-2023-phase-5\">downsized their annual output of Marvel movies and shows<\/a> in the wake of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/24208716\/deadpool-and-wolverine-box-office-record-r-rated\">a recent viewership lull<\/a>. The news that Robert Downey Jr. is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/sdcc\/24207892\/robert-downey-jr-doctor-doom-marvel\">returning to Marvel to play Doctor Doom<\/a> and the Russo brothers are <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/sdcc\/24202230\/avengers-5-doomsday-secret-wars-director-russo-brothers-sdcc-2024\">set to direct the next two <em>Avengers<\/em> movies<\/a> feels like Marvel retreading its old successes, rather than trying to find the next thing that works.<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">Priorities have changed for DC Entertainment as well. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/23578415\/new-dc-movies-james-gunn-release-date-superman-batman-schedule-calendar-upcoming\">James Gunn&#8217;s new DC Universe<\/a> is all about synergy&nbsp;\u2014 about having the same actors play their characters across film, TV, animation, and even video games, as these stories all take place in the same continuity. This means no longer relying on hiring seasoned voice actors to play roles in animation and video games: Instead, DC is pushing screen actors into formats they aren&#8217;t necessarily familiar with, and which aren\u2019t the same as acting on a set. This effectively kills the chance of DC projects discovering the next Kevin Conroy or the next Phil LaMarr.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/deadpool-wolverine-bids-farewell-to-the-experimental-superhero-movie-era-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" data-has-syndication-rights=\"1\" data-caption=\"\" data-portal-copyright=\"\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">But the damage conformity and homogenity has done and will keep doing to the superhero field runs deeper. In Marvel\u2019s case, while Phase 5 of the MCU has felt disjointed, leading to many meta gags in <em>Deadpool &amp; Wolverine<\/em>, it\u2019s indubitably included some experimentation as well. During this phase, we got <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/reviews\/22633102\/shang-chi-review\"><em>Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings<\/em><\/a>, and Disney Plus shows allowed smaller characters like <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/23197005\/ms-marvel-slice-of-life-mcu-disney-plus\">Ms. Marvel<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/23002970\/moon-knight-review-episode-1\">Moon Knight<\/a> to take the spotlight. And let\u2019s not forget how <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/reviews\/23955824\/loki-season-2-finale-review-ending\">weird and great <em>Loki<\/em> is<\/a>. These titles are vastly different from each other, and different from anything Marvel has done before. Just look at <em>Ms. Marvel<\/em>, the Marvel equivalent of a 2000s Disney Channel TV show, but with a much bigger budget.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">But with Marvel cutting back on TV shows, it seems less and less likely that smaller characters will get that kind of spotlight space. It\u2019d be more in keeping with Disney\u2019s current strategy to head back to the time of <em>Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.<\/em> and other inconsequential, low-budget shows that barely connect to the movies. In the past, that lack of connection was because TV production timelines and film development timelines don\u2019t mesh well, but it feels like we\u2019re heading into an era where the TV and movie aspects of the MCU will have to separate because the shows won&#8217;t have the scale or budget to share talent with the movies.<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">As <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/23792536\/tv-marvel-secret-invasion-cliffhangers-are-bad-now-why\">bad as <em>Secret Invasion <\/em>was<\/a>, Marvel did get us an entire six-episode TV show starring Samuel L. Jackson, who\u2019s rarely worked in TV over the past 20 years<em>. <\/em>There may be yet an occasional movie or TV show that strays from the formula a bit, but how long will we have to wait to get those crumbs if Marvel\u2019s resetting its table?<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">When it comes to the DC Universe, we&#8217;re already seeing the ways the mandate for synergy in the DC Universe is affecting new titles, even before the first one is released. At <a href=\"https:\/\/www.slashfilm.com\/1603755\/creature-commandos-preview-annecy-dc-universe-james-gunn\/\">a presentation for Gunn\u2019s <em>Creature Commandos<\/em><\/a> at the Annecy Animation Festival, the producers talked openly about the limitations of synergy on their work, and how they were forced to tone down some of the show\u2019s character and location designs, either to look more like their live-action counterparts or to work better in live-action. They showed a concept art for the Belle Reve prison as a gothic, expressive locale set high atop a hill and with a spooky green light \u2014\u00a0but that image was replaced with a bland building that matched what we&#8217;ve seen in James Gunn&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/reviews\/22610086\/the-suicide-squad-review\"><em>The Suicide Squad<\/em><\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/reviews\/22867078\/peacemaker-review-hbo-max\"><em>Peacemaker<\/em><\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/deadpool-wolverine-bids-farewell-to-the-experimental-superhero-movie-era-3.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" data-has-syndication-rights=\"1\" data-caption=\"&lt;em&gt;The Suicide Squad.&lt;\/em&gt;\" data-portal-copyright=\"\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">James Gunn has promised that his DCU will still allow movies like <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/reviews\/22951429\/the-batman-movie-review-2022\">Matt Reeves\u2019 <em>The Batman<\/em><\/a> to exist in their own bubble universes, but it\u2019s unclear whether Warner Bros. Discovery CEO\/president David Zaslav feels the same way. With Zaslav <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/articles\/2024-05-08\/warner-bros-discovery-plans-fresh-cost-cuts-hike-in-max-price\">overseeing so much cost-cutting at Warner Bros.<\/a>, the question that\u2019s plagued DC for decades has resurfaced: Is it worth having two versions of Batman on screen at the same time, even if they\u2019re aimed at different audiences?<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">Aside from the cross-universe shenanigans in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/reviews\/23751219\/the-flash-movie-review-ezra-miller-michael-keaton-batman\">the best-forgotten <em>The Flash<\/em><\/a>, DC has never allowed more than one Batman in live-action at the same time. Once we get <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/23763230\/batman-dcu-the-brave-and-the-bold-the-flash-andy-muschietti\"><em>The Brave and The Bold<\/em><\/a> and the new DC Universe Batman, what happens to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/24210776\/batman-caped-crusader-review-analysis-amazon\"><em>Batman: Caped Crusader<\/em><\/a>? With <em>Young Justice <\/em>seemingly dead and gone, the only animated DC TV projects still alive seem to be those <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/anime\/24195044\/suicide-squad-isekai-harley-quinn-anime-perfect\">based on the <em>Harley Quinn<\/em> universe<\/a>, the only DC property to have survived two streamers and a merger.<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">The cinematic superhero landscape wasn\u2019t always about streamlined stories and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/24196694\/dc-marvel-superhero-continuity\">ever-more-complicated continuities<\/a>. Marvel experimented widely throughout the 2000s, due to having to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/tv\/22561233\/mcu-tv-shows-ranked-marvel-cinematic-universe\">license its characters to different studios<\/a>, which competed with each other by delivering vastly different and unique movies and TV shows. DC still allowed for its own brand experimentation until recently: After the failure of the Snyderverse, DC did away with continuity and allowed lighter movies like <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/2019\/3\/23\/18271254\/shazam-review-dc-zachary-levi-warner-bros\"><em>Shazam!<\/em><\/a><em> <\/em>and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/reviews\/23836229\/blue-beetle-review-mexican-identity-jaime-reyes\"><em>Blue Beetle<\/em><\/a><em> <\/em>to co-exist with <em>The Suicide Squad<\/em> and <em>Joker<\/em>. But with Gunn cracking down on visual and character cohesion across his version of the DC Universe, that kind of exploration seems a lot less likely.<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\"><em>Deadpool &amp; Wolverine <\/em>is full of silly jokes about Marvel Jesus and Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige banning cocaine humor. But it\u2019s also a pointed celebration of an era when mainstream and blockbuster superhero movies weren\u2019t all so firmly built around formula, when they were allowed to be (and often had to be) weird. Some of those weirder projects succeeded;\u00a0others failed spectacularly, which is memorable too. This is a movie that puts Channing Tatum&#8217;s questionable Cajun costume and accent front and center, and asks, &#8220;Isn&#8217;t it cool that this was once considered for a big superhero movie?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/deadpool-wolverine-bids-farewell-to-the-experimental-superhero-movie-era-4.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" data-has-syndication-rights=\"1\" data-caption=\"&lt;em&gt;Shazam!&lt;\/em&gt;\" data-portal-copyright=\"\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">The future of superhero movies looks uniform and dull at this particular moment, with the majors going back to basics. But then again, we&#8217;ve been here before. The MCU has reached a low point, as <em>Deadpool &amp; Wolverine<\/em> points out several times. But maybe that movie\u2019s tremendous success\u00a0\u2014 even as an R-rated, endlessly referential, above all pretty weird project \u2014\u00a0can be a wakeup call for Marvel, a reminder that standing out from a pack of samey, similar product is a good thing for any movie.<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">As for DC, there\u2019s always hope \u2014&nbsp;James Gunn is still, after all, the guy who turned a movie about a CG tree-man with a one-word vocabulary and his talking-raccoon buddy into a thriving franchise. So there&#8217;s always some hope that he\u2019ll bring oddity and color back to DC. If not, we at least have Channing Tatum&#8217;s short but wonderful cameo as Gambit \u2014&nbsp;and whatever bits and bobs of past experimental eras the Deadpool franchise resurfaces next.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/analysis\/449126\/deadpool-wolverine-future-of-mcu-dcu-superhero-movies\">Source<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Deadpool &amp; Wolverine serves as the official, final nail in the coffin of 20th Century Fox\u2019s Marvel movies, and the welcome party that brings Deadpool and the X-Men into the Marvel Cinematic Universe. But there&#8217;s more to the movie than Deadpool mocking the MCU and calling himself \u201cMarvel Jesus,\u201d come to save the Avengers. And there\u2019s more to it than transgressive humor and over-the-top violence. It\u2019s also a moderately poignant goodbye letter to&nbsp; an entire era of superhero-movie experimentation that\u2019s now dead and gone. [Ed. note: Small spoilers ahead for some of Deadpool &amp; Wolverine\u2019s cameo appearances.] While Hugh Jackman\u2019s return to Wolverine in Deadpool &amp; Wolverine was wisely advertised and expected, the various 20th Century Fox Marvel cameos are surprising because they\u2019re celebrating characters&hellip;<\/p>\n<p class=\"excerpt-more\"><a class=\"blog-excerpt button\" href=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/news\/deadpool-wolverine-bids-farewell-to-the-experimental-superhero-movie-era\/\">Read More&#8230;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":962921,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[10],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-962920","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-polygon"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Deadpool &#038; 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