{"id":911241,"date":"2025-12-26T01:30:15","date_gmt":"2025-12-26T01:30:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/Z5ch85yLrpgUZQgPyApcvd"},"modified":"2025-12-26T01:30:15","modified_gmt":"2025-12-26T01:30:15","slug":"amd-is-already-prepping-a-3nm-update-to-its-new-zen-5-cpus","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/arcader.org\/news\/amd-is-already-prepping-a-3nm-update-to-its-new-zen-5-cpus\/","title":{"rendered":"AMD is already prepping a 3nm update to its new Zen 5 CPUs"},"content":{"rendered":"<article>\n<p>AMD&apos;s new <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/hardware\/processors\/amd-zen-5-architecture-a-ground-up-redesign-that-lays-the-foundation-for-future-ryzen-cpu-architectures\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Zen 5 CPUs, AKA the Ryzen 9000 series<\/a>, are shaping up very nicely indeed. But if there is a doubt over AMD&apos;s latest CPU family, it&apos;s that it carries over essentially the same 4nm silicon as Zen 4. Well, not for long, it turns out.<\/p>\n<p>AMD&apos;s long-time leading chip maestro Mike Clark, who has worked on AMD CPU designs for over 30 years, says that plans are afoot for a 3nm respin of the Zen 5 architecture. What&apos;s more, it&apos;s all happening very fast.<\/p>\n<p><a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tomshardware.com\/pc-components\/cpus\/an-interview-with-mike-clark-the-father-of-zen-zen-daddy-talks-fast-3nm-launch-zen-5c-cores-for-desktop-chips\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Speaking to Tom&apos;s Hardware<\/a>, Clark said that AMD wanted the the flexibility of using both nodes for Zen 5 despite the challenges that posed.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We need that flexibility in our roadmap, and it makes sense. But still that was really hard to try to control having the two technologies and the features, and a feature that looks great in 3nm not looking so great in 4nm because of the power impact of the not-as-efficient transistor and how it affects the floorplan,&#8221; Clark said.<\/p>\n<p>Interestingly, from a timing perspective it sounds like 3nm Zen 3 could be along very soon. &#8220;We&apos;re going to deliver 3nm here in short order with 4nm; basically, they&apos;re on top of each other,&#8221; Clark revealed.<\/p>\n<p>Previously there have been rumours that 3nm would be used for the Zen 5C compact core rather than the full Zen 5 design. However, Clark didn&apos;t talk specifics, so we&apos;ll have to wait and see about that.<\/p>\n<p>For our money, the chip we&apos;d most like to see make the jump to 3nm is AMD&apos;s APU line for laptops and handhelds. Seeing the <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/hardware\/processors\/weve-got-our-hands-on-amd-strix-point-and-granite-ridge-and-theyre-both-so-pretty\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">new Strix Point APU<\/a> using 4nm silicon is a bit of a worry for battery life.<\/p>\n<p>AMD&apos;s existing Phoenix and Hawk Point APUs don&apos;t exactly offer great battery life in a handheld gaming context using 4nm silicon. So, the prospect of an even more powerful chip on 4nm with more GPU cores hardly bodes well for battery life.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, as we discussed recently, it turns out that <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/hardware\/graphics-cards\/amds-tweaked-rdna-35-gpu-is-solely-focused-on-improving-mobile-gaming-performance\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the revised RDNA 3.5 GPU in Strix Point has been tweaked to improve efficiency<\/a>. So, those gains will be available even on 4nm. But every little helps, and RDNA 3.5 plus 3nm does seem like an appealing combo for mobile gaming.<\/p>\n<div class=\"fancy-box\">\n<div class=\"fancy_box-title\">Your next machine<\/div>\n<div class=\"fancy_box_body\">\n<figure class=\"van-image-figure \" >\n<div class='image-full-width-wrapper'>\n<div class='image-widthsetter' >\n<p class=\"vanilla-image-block\" style=\"padding-top:56.25%;\"><img decoding=\"async\" id=\"xXhrEsP3nMY9e43WUFUxSC\" name=\"gaming-pc-group-shot.jpg\" caption=\"\" alt=\"Gaming PC group shot\" src=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/amd-is-already-prepping-a-3nm-update-to-its-new-zen-5-cpus.jpg\" mos=\"\" link=\"\" align=\"\" fullscreen=\"\" width=\"\" height=\"\" attribution=\"\" endorsement=\"\" class=\"pinterest-pin-exclude\"><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><figcaption itemprop=\"caption description\" class=\"\"><span class=\"credit\" itemprop=\"copyrightHolder\">(Image credit: Future)<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"fancy-box__body-text\"><a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/best-gaming-pc\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Best gaming PC<\/strong><\/a>: The top pre-built machines.<br \/>\n<a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/best-gaming-laptop\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Best gaming laptop<\/strong><\/a>: Great devices for mobile gaming.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Clark also hinted that AMD might bring its compact Zen 5C cores to the desktop. Currently, they&apos;re reserved for mobile CPUs. &#8220;If we keep building the compact cores in the way that we talked about, the hard part is really making sure we hit the right frequency point so that it&apos;s balanced with however many [cores] you&apos;re going to put down. But let&apos;s say you&apos;re really good at that, then there&apos;s no reason not to put a compact core on a desktop,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p>Clark also said that using compact cores could mean achieving the same performance at a given core count for less money or being able to squeeze in even more cores on the desktop. So, compact cores could well be a thing on the desktop, soon.<\/p>\n<p>It&apos;s worth pointing out in all this that the fact AMD is working on 3nm Zen 5 chips doesn&apos;t necessarily mean we&apos;ll see them in gaming desktops, laptops and handhelds. AMD could be plotting 3nm chips for servers, workstation or embedded applications and Clark didn&apos;t reveal any specifics.<\/p>\n<p>On the desktop where power consumption isn&apos;t critical, 3nm probably wouldn&apos;t be a dramatic leap anyway. But 3nm laptop and handheld Zen 5 CPUs could be pretty sweet. So, here&apos;s hoping AMD has plans afoot in that regard.<\/p>\n<\/article>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/hardware\/processors\/amd-is-already-prepping-a-3nm-update-to-its-new-zen-5-cpus\">Source<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>AMD&apos;s new Zen 5 CPUs, AKA the Ryzen 9000 series, are shaping up very nicely indeed. But if there is a doubt over AMD&apos;s latest CPU family, it&apos;s that it carries over essentially the same 4nm silicon as Zen 4. Well, not for long, it turns out. AMD&apos;s long-time leading chip maestro Mike Clark, who has worked on AMD CPU designs for over 30 years, says that plans are afoot for a 3nm respin of the Zen 5 architecture. What&apos;s more, it&apos;s all happening very fast. Speaking to Tom&apos;s Hardware, Clark said that AMD wanted the the flexibility of using both nodes for Zen 5 despite the challenges that posed.\u00a0 &#8220;We need that flexibility in our roadmap, and it makes sense. 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