{"id":896198,"date":"2025-12-23T16:14:17","date_gmt":"2025-12-23T16:14:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/VHbRB6yjPbC9mBrs8hEK4Y"},"modified":"2025-12-23T16:14:17","modified_gmt":"2025-12-23T16:14:17","slug":"intel-reportedly-wont-make-any-cheaper-gpu-less-f-spec-versions-of-its-top-arrow-lake-cpus","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/arcader.org\/news\/intel-reportedly-wont-make-any-cheaper-gpu-less-f-spec-versions-of-its-top-arrow-lake-cpus\/","title":{"rendered":"Intel reportedly won&#8217;t make any cheaper GPU-less &#8216;F&#8217; spec versions of its top Arrow Lake CPUs"},"content":{"rendered":"<article>\n<p>Will <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/hardware\/processors\/intels-arrow-lake-chips-could-be-using-a-brand-new-core-layout-for-the-first-time-in-years\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Arrow Lake<\/a> be the CPU that turns things around for Intel? We&apos;ll find out when Intel&apos;s latest desktop processor is launched sometime before the end of this year. In the meantime, the latest scuttlebutt suggests that Intel won&apos;t be doing a GPU-less version of the top-spec Core Ultra 9 variant of the new chip.<\/p>\n<div class=\"see-more see-more--clipped\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet hawk-ignore\" data-lang=\"en\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">ARL-S full lineup will require more time to compile, apologies.For now, I can confirm that the 285K, 265K, and 245K monikers are official.Moreover, all Core Ultra 9 SKUs will ship with integrated graphics. So, no Core Ultra 9 F SKUs.<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jaykihn0\/status\/1810038734567428543\">July 7, 2024<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"see-more__filter\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>The rumour comes from serial Arrow Lake soothsayer on X, <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/jaykihn0\/status\/1810038734567428543\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">@jaykihn0<\/a> (via <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamesn.com\/intel\/no-core-ultra-9-f\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">PCGamesN)<\/a>, who claims that all Core Ultra 9 SKUs &#8220;will ship with integrated graphics.&#8221; If accurate, it&apos;s a change from Intel&apos;s policy in recent years, which has included so-called &#8220;F&#8221; variants of several processor models from across its CPU ranges with the integrated graphics disabled.<\/p>\n<p>In return, Intel shaves $30 or thereabouts off the price. This approach makes most sense with higher performing chips aimed at gaming. The idea is that if you&apos;re buying a fairly pricey CPU with a view to gaming, it&apos;s a pretty much nailed-on certainty that you&apos;re going to be using a dedicated graphics card. So you don&apos;t need integrated graphics.<\/p>\n<p>At the same time, fusing off the graphics makes it possible to use some chips with faults in the iGPU that would otherwise render them useless. It&apos;s win-win for everyone.<\/p>\n<p>As for why Intel reportedly isn&apos;t taking this approach, at least with Core Ultra 9 models if perhaps not with other Arrow Lake SKUs, it could come down to chiplet tech. If Arrow Lake is built like Intel&apos;s Meteor Lake laptop CPU, the iGPU essentially has a chiplet of its own.<\/p>\n<p>Those chiplets either work or they don&apos;t. You&apos;re not going to build a broken iGPU die into a chiplet CPU. Likewise, if the iGPU works, it doesn&apos;t make much sense to go to the trouble and expense of putting it into a multi-die CPU only to then turn it off.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, that thinking would apply to other members of the Arrow Lake family, too. A slight confusing factor is the possibility that lower-end SKUs in the Arrow Lake lineup may end up being based on an earlier monolithic architecture like Raptor Lake.<\/p>\n<p>But our understanding is that the Core Ultra 9 285K, Core Ultra 7 265K, and Core Ultra 5 245K models that have been the subject of various leaks in recent months all use the actual Arrow Lake architecture.<\/p>\n<div class=\"fancy-box\">\n<div class=\"fancy_box-title\">Your next upgrade<\/div>\n<div class=\"fancy_box_body\">\n<figure class=\"van-image-figure \" >\n<div class='image-full-width-wrapper'>\n<div class='image-widthsetter' >\n<p class=\"vanilla-image-block\" style=\"padding-top:56.25%;\"><img decoding=\"async\" id=\"tidxyoUY3P2N5A2jEhgSNK\" name=\"nvidia-rtx-4070-12.jpg\" caption=\"\" alt=\"Nvidia RTX 4070 and RTX 3080 Founders Edition graphics cards\" src=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/intel-reportedly-wont-make-any-cheaper-gpu-less-f-spec-versions-of-its-top-arrow-lake-cpus.jpg\" mos=\"\" link=\"\" align=\"\" fullscreen=\"\" width=\"\" height=\"\" attribution=\"\" endorsement=\"\" class=\"pinterest-pin-exclude\"><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><figcaption itemprop=\"caption description\" class=\"\"><span class=\"credit\" itemprop=\"copyrightHolder\">(Image credit: Future)<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"fancy-box__body-text\"><a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/best-cpu-for-gaming\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Best CPU for gaming<\/strong><\/a>: The top chips from Intel and AMD.<br \/>\n<a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/best-gaming-motherboards\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Best gaming motherboard<\/strong><\/a>: The right boards.<br \/>\n<a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/the-best-graphics-cards\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Best graphics card<\/strong><\/a>: Your perfect pixel-pusher awaits.<br \/>\n<a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/best-ssd-for-gaming\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Best SSD for gaming<\/strong><\/a>: Get into the game ahead of the rest.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Less clear is the actual substructure of Arrow Lake. Meteor Lake, for instance, is very chiplety, for want of a better term. It has four active tiles, the compute tile, the graphics tile, the IO tile and the SOC tile.<\/p>\n<p>However, Intel&apos;s upcoming <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/hardware\/processors\/intels-new-lunar-lake-cpu-is-simultaneously-wonderful-weird-and-worrisome-but-has-the-makings-of-an-awesome-handheld-gaming-chip\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Lunar Lake chip<\/a> rows that back a little. It only has two active tiles, the main compute tile with the CPU cores, the iGPU, the NPU and the rest, plus a much smaller Platform Controller tile. And that&apos;s it.<\/p>\n<p>Intel&apos;s marketing materials around Arrow Lake seem to imply it&apos;s a four-tile configuration like Meteor Lake rather than a two-tile setup like Lunar Lake. But we don&apos;t know for sure.<\/p>\n<p>Either way, we would quite like to see some &#8220;F&#8221; chips in the Arrow Lake range. The don&apos;t make for massive savings. But taking something out that&apos;s useless for gaming and cutting the price a bit works for us, so here&apos;s hoping.<\/p>\n<\/article>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/hardware\/processors\/intel-reportedly-wont-make-any-cheaper-gpu-less-f-spec-versions-of-its-top-arrow-lake-cpus\">Source<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Will Arrow Lake be the CPU that turns things around for Intel? We&apos;ll find out when Intel&apos;s latest desktop processor is launched sometime before the end of this year. In the meantime, the latest scuttlebutt suggests that Intel won&apos;t be doing a GPU-less version of the top-spec Core Ultra 9 variant of the new chip. ARL-S full lineup will require more time to compile, apologies.For now, I can confirm that the 285K, 265K, and 245K monikers are official.Moreover, all Core Ultra 9 SKUs will ship with integrated graphics. So, no Core Ultra 9 F SKUs.July 7, 2024 The rumour comes from serial Arrow Lake soothsayer on X, @jaykihn0 (via PCGamesN), who claims that all Core Ultra 9 SKUs &#8220;will ship with integrated graphics.&#8221; If accurate,&hellip;<\/p>\n<p class=\"excerpt-more\"><a class=\"blog-excerpt button\" href=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/news\/intel-reportedly-wont-make-any-cheaper-gpu-less-f-spec-versions-of-its-top-arrow-lake-cpus\/\">Read More&#8230;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":896199,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[336],"tags":[66,10710],"class_list":["post-896198","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-pc-gamer","tag-hardware","tag-processors"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Intel reportedly won&#039;t make any cheaper GPU-less &#039;F&#039; spec versions of its top Arrow Lake CPUs | Arcader News<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Will Arrow Lake be the CPU that turns things around for Intel? 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