{"id":3583,"date":"2026-04-13T16:55:15","date_gmt":"2026-04-13T16:55:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.eurogamer.net\/article.php?article_id=2125842"},"modified":"2026-04-13T16:55:15","modified_gmt":"2026-04-13T16:55:15","slug":"microsoft-and-sony-both-lamented-how-next-gen-console-pre-orders-went-xbox-boss-says","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/arcader.org\/news\/microsoft-and-sony-both-lamented-how-next-gen-console-pre-orders-went-xbox-boss-says\/","title":{"rendered":"Microsoft and Sony both &#8220;lamented&#8221; how next-gen console pre-orders went, Xbox boss says"},"content":{"rendered":"<div><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/microsoft-and-sony-both-lamented-how-next-gen-console-pre-orders-went-xbox-boss-says.jpg\" class=\"ff-og-image-inserted\"><\/div>\n<p>Neither Microsoft or Sony were happy with how next-gen pre-orders went this year, Xbox boss Phil Spencer has said. <\/p>\n<p>Amidst early morning rushes, online queues, numerous <a href=\"https:\/\/www.eurogamer.net\/articles\/2020-09-22-game-adds-gbp10-delivery-charge-to-ps5-and-xbox-series-x-s-pre-orders-on-the-quiet\">retailer fails<\/a> and stolen deliveries, the launch of multiple next-gen consoles has been a bit of a mixed bag.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/21611412\/microsoft-phil-spencer-interview-xbox-series-x-launch-decoder-podcast\">The Verge<\/a>&#8216;s Decoder podcast, Spencer said both he and PlayStation head honcho Jim Ryan had &#8220;lamented&#8221; how frustrating an experience it had been for people simply trying to put down money for a console &#8211; and suggested something would have to change next time around. <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I do think this business is going through, both for us and Sony &#8211; Jim Ryan [at Sony], I have a lot of respect for him, we both have lamented how these pre-orders have gone and what problem are we really solving when we seem to still have as many upset customers as we have, because they can&#8217;t get our product,&#8221; Spencer said. &#8220;I do think it&#8217;s going to push us to think about new models. It could be, reserve your slot. It could be doing things more direct with the customer. [We] still could have the retailer fulfil the order, but just so people can have more clarity on when they can get a console. It&#8217;s something we&#8217;re working on.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Rather than limit console orders to just pre-orders, both companies still released some stock on their respective launch days in a bid to drum up retail excitement. But Spencer appeared to question whether this practice should continue.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We want people to feel like there&#8217;s some consoles to go buy, and it&#8217;s not just the day where everybody gets to go pick up their [pre-ordered] console. I don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s the right decision in today&#8217;s world,&#8221; Spencer continued. &#8220;That&#8217;s very old world thinking, people are going to go line up outside of a store, kind of last decade thinking. I think we should challenge ourselves on that. Is that really the supply chain through the consumer that we&#8217;re talking about, that is a reality? We talked to our retail partners about this as well.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s a wide-ranging interview, and well worth a read to hear Spencer&#8217;s thoughts on console exclusives, cloud gaming, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.eurogamer.net\/articles\/2020-10-09-microsoft-has-a-plan-to-circumvent-apple-and-get-xbox-on-ios\">Microsoft&#8217;s browser-based ploy to get around Apple&#8217;s game subscription service rules<\/a>. <\/p>\n<figure class=\"video\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"video-container\"> [embedded content]<\/p>\n<p> <span class=\"message\">This content is hosted on an external platform, which will only display it if you accept targeting cookies. Please enable cookies to view.<\/span> <button id=\"ot-sdk-btn\" class=\"ot-sdk-show-settings\">Manage cookie settings<\/button>\n<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div><figcaption>\n<p>Are the PS5 and Xbox Series X too buggy at launch?<\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Of note is one later question around the launch of Xbox game streaming on other devices, which also ties into the idea of eliminating console queues altogether.<\/p>\n<p>When asked what was stopping Xbox from moving on from requiring a mobile phone or PC for xCloud streaming, Spencer said Microsoft was planning a smart TV-based Xbox app which required no further hardware at all.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I think you&#8217;re going to see that in the next 12 months,&#8221; Spencer said, of an Xbox app for smart TVs. &#8220;I don&#8217;t think anything is going to stop us from doing that. I thought what you said about the TV was spot on. What we used to call a TV was a CRT that&#8217;s just throwing an image on the back of a piece of glass that I&#8217;m looking at. Now, as you said, a TV is really more of a game console stuffed behind a screen that has an app platform and a Bluetooth stack and a streaming capability. Is it really a TV anymore or is it just the form and function of the devices that we used to have around our TV, consolidated into the one big screen that I&#8217;m looking at?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Finally, on console gaming tribalism, it was refreshing to hear Spencer talk plainly about the kind of toxic discussions which take place between obsessive fans of specific consoles and companies. <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Especially in the console space, there&#8217;s like a core of the core, that have, I think, taken it to a destructive level of, &#8216;I really want that to fail so the thing that I bought succeeds,'&#8221; Spencer said. &#8220;I&#8217;m saying on both sides. I&#8217;m not saying that it&#8217;s all people crushing Xboxes and everybody that loves Xbox is always completely inviting to all the PlayStation stuff. I&#8217;ve said before, that I find it distasteful, but maybe that is too light. I just really despise it. I don&#8217;t think we have to see others fail in order for us to achieve the goals. That&#8217;s not some kind of &#8216;kumbaya&#8217; thing. It&#8217;s actually real. We&#8217;re in the entertainment business. The biggest competitor we have is apathy over the products and services [and] games that we build.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We see that today. Everybody is doing well in the industry right now for the most part with the stay-at-home and the surge. That&#8217;s what we should be focused on as an industry. We&#8217;ve done it with things like cross-play and other things that we focused on breaking some of those tropes. But there is a core that just really hates the other consumer product. Man, that&#8217;s just so off-putting to me. Again, maybe that word is probably too light. To me, it&#8217;s one of the worst things about our industry.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Again, the full interview is over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/21611412\/microsoft-phil-spencer-interview-xbox-series-x-launch-decoder-podcast\">The Verge<\/a> and it&#8217;s well worth a read or listen.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.eurogamer.net\/articles\/2020-11-24-microsoft-and-sony-bosses-both-lamented-how-next-gen-console-pre-orders-went\">Source<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Neither Microsoft or Sony were happy with how next-gen pre-orders went this year, Xbox boss Phil Spencer has said. Amidst early morning rushes, online queues, numerous retailer fails and stolen deliveries, the launch of multiple next-gen consoles has been a bit of a mixed bag. Speaking on The Verge&#8216;s Decoder podcast, Spencer said both he and PlayStation head honcho Jim Ryan had &#8220;lamented&#8221; how frustrating an experience it had been for people simply trying to put down money for a console &#8211; and suggested something would have to change next time around. &#8220;I do think this business is going through, both for us and Sony &#8211; Jim Ryan [at Sony], I have a lot of respect for him, we both have lamented how these pre-orders&hellip;<\/p>\n<p class=\"excerpt-more\"><a class=\"blog-excerpt button\" href=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/news\/microsoft-and-sony-both-lamented-how-next-gen-console-pre-orders-went-xbox-boss-says\/\">Read More&#8230;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":3584,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[230],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3583","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-eurogamer"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Microsoft and Sony both &quot;lamented&quot; how next-gen console pre-orders went, Xbox boss says | Arcader News<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Neither Microsoft or Sony were happy with how next-gen pre-orders went this year, Xbox boss Phil Spencer has said. 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