{"id":1704579,"date":"2026-09-29T13:22:40","date_gmt":"2026-09-29T13:22:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/pzW7U23jLZPPBgMZfnVsXR"},"modified":"2026-09-29T13:22:40","modified_gmt":"2026-09-29T13:22:40","slug":"stop-trying-to-make-a-console-war-out-of-which-wow-is-better-youre-all-exhausting","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/arcader.org\/news\/stop-trying-to-make-a-console-war-out-of-which-wow-is-better-youre-all-exhausting\/","title":{"rendered":"Stop trying to make a console war out of which WoW is better, you&#8217;re all exhausting"},"content":{"rendered":"<article>\n<p>I&#8217;ve been very much enjoying the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/world-of-warcraft-forever\/\">World of Warcraft: Forever<\/a> beta\u2014and I will be the first to cop to the fact I think it&#8217;s recapturing a lot of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/games\/world-of-warcraft\/world-of-warcraft-forevers-convinced-me-that-we-lost-too-much-to-modern-mmo-quest-design\/\">essence of an oldschool MMO that we lost<\/a>. Tongue in my cheek, I&#8217;ll even join in with the &#8220;reject modernity&#8221; crowd. But, crucially, I&#8217;ll be doing so as a <em>joke. <\/em><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve noticed, skimming my hand across the surface of the discourse, a propensity for folks to be getting up in arms about which version of their favorite MMO was better and to do so loudly, passionately, and obnoxiously. These factions stand divided:<\/p>\n<div class=\"card card--standard card--rows-2 card--align-inline\">\n<div class=\"card-image-widthsetter\">\n<p class=\"vanilla-image-block\" style=\"padding-top:56.25%;\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"width: 100%\" class=\"card__image\" src=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/stop-trying-to-make-a-console-war-out-of-which-wow-is-better-youre-all-exhausting.png\" alt=\"Xal'atath appears before Alleria Windrunner to loom, menacingly, over them in World of Warcraft: The War Within.\"><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"card__content\">\n<h3 class=\"card__title\">The Church of Retail<\/h3>\n<div class=\"card__description-wrapper\">\n<div class=\"card__description\">\n<p>Behold, the cruel efficiencies of the Church of Retail, who believe that modern WoW&#8217;s conveniences, that their hoards of amassed transmogs and mounts and player housing, are indeed the better option, and that these upstarts are merely nostalgia-peddlers. <\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"card card--standard card--rows-2 card--align-inline\">\n<div class=\"card-image-widthsetter\">\n<p class=\"vanilla-image-block\" style=\"padding-top:56.25%;\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"width: 100%\" class=\"card__image\" src=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/stop-trying-to-make-a-console-war-out-of-which-wow-is-better-youre-all-exhausting.jpg\" alt=\"WoW classic addons\"><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"card__content\">\n<h3 class=\"card__title\">House Classic<\/h3>\n<div class=\"card__description-wrapper\">\n<div class=\"card__description\">\n<p>The hard, leathery-faced veterans of House Classic, who believe that no changes are to be wrought upon their favorite game\u2014that these $30 Skyborne elves are a pox upon the land, and that even the slightest whiff of quality of life is a heresy.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"card card--standard card--rows-2 card--align-inline\">\n<div class=\"card-image-widthsetter\">\n<p class=\"vanilla-image-block\" style=\"padding-top:56.25%;\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"width: 100%\" class=\"card__image\" src=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/stop-trying-to-make-a-console-war-out-of-which-wow-is-better-youre-all-exhausting-1.jpg\" alt=\"A screenshot of the World of Warcraft: Forever beta. A pair of Orcs in the Crossroads rest on the dry ground.\"><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"card__content\">\n<h3 class=\"card__title\">The Coalition of Forever<\/h3>\n<div class=\"card__description-wrapper\">\n<div class=\"card__description\">\n<p>The new fledgling Coalition of Forever, who scoff at the implications that they are in a &#8220;millenial retirement home&#8221;. Nay, instead, their day has come! A glorious dawn peeking over the horizon to lead them into what MMORPGs should have always been!<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"card card--standard card--rows-2 card--align-inline\">\n<div class=\"card-image-widthsetter\">\n<p class=\"vanilla-image-block\" style=\"padding-top:56.25%;\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"width: 100%\" class=\"card__image\" src=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/stop-trying-to-make-a-console-war-out-of-which-wow-is-better-youre-all-exhausting-1.png\" alt=\"A crying orc in World of Warcraft: Forever.\"><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"card__content\">\n<h3 class=\"card__title\">Me, Some Guy<\/h3>\n<div class=\"card__description-wrapper\">\n<div class=\"card__description\">\n<p>I am in the center of this bloody battlefield, going: God, you&#8217;re all exhausting, before being deservedly riddled with arrows and dying. Such is the life of someone with opinions\u2014but before you knock an arrow into your bow, I&#8217;d ask you to hear me out.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>My heart lies with the Coalition, sure. I think Forever is one of the most exciting things to happen in the MMO space in years. I have a fondness for the old tab-targeting techniques of older MMOs and a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/games\/mmo\/in-defense-of-tab-targeting-mmo-devs-have-been-trying-to-put-dodge-rolls-in-their-games-for-10-years-to-avoid-wow-and-its-never-worked\/\">resentment for the dodge roll<\/a>, and I much prefer the slow-paced explorative nature of Forever to something like Retail, which has, I admit, temporarily lost me with its seasonal structure.<\/p>\n<p>But I am also a lover of variety. My favourite games range from hopecore science fiction RPGs like Citizen Sleeper to basically every Soulslike I can get my hands on. I adore silly &#8220;friendslop&#8221; games and the hope-crushing simulator that is a MOBA, which Deadlock has pulled me kicking and screaming back into. Point being: I think there&#8217;s a space for everyone.<\/p>\n<h2 id=\"rose-tinted-warpaint\">Rose-tinted Warpaint<\/h2>\n<figure class=\"van-image-figure inline-layout\" data-bordeaux-image-check >\n<div class='image-full-width-wrapper'>\n<div class='image-widthsetter' style=\"max-width:1920px;\">\n<p class=\"vanilla-image-block\" style=\"padding-top:56.25%;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"UWZznzgKHku3D8hVGaVCp6\" name=\"WoW Worgen Pog.png\" alt=\"A worgen looks very surprised in World of Warcraft Classic.\" src=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/stop-trying-to-make-a-console-war-out-of-which-wow-is-better-youre-all-exhausting-2.png\" mos=\"\" align=\"middle\" fullscreen=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" attribution=\"\" endorsement=\"\" class=\"inline\"><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><figcaption itemprop=\"caption description\" class=\" inline-layout\"><span class=\"credit\" itemprop=\"copyrightHolder\">(Image credit: Blizzard Entertainment \/ PlatinumWoW on YouTube)<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>I don&#8217;t think the design of retail World of Warcraft is inherently <em>bad, <\/em>it&#8217;s just <em>different. <\/em>I think Midnight has got a lot of things right\u2014player housing is an absolute win, the game&#8217;s increasing alt friendliness suits what it has become, the lack of mandatory borrowed power chores is nice, and I like being able to rinse through my Delves and Preys and zip around on my flying mount. It&#8217;s frictionless, easy, keyboard-smashing fun.<\/p>\n<p>Sometimes I&#8217;m in the mood to mindlessly do a bunch of low-stakes content. That mood hasn&#8217;t taken me lately, but I&#8217;m not naive enough to believe it&#8217;ll never take me at <em>all.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Similarly, I also enjoy how Forever shrugs off those systems in favour of their design opposites: No overstimulating heaps of new patch-specific systems to partake in, no chore lists full of faction grinds, no dungeon finder. You log in, and you plod along with your playlist of choice in a world filled with players, and you do some quests. Maybe you find a group to clean out RFC with. You meet an undead paladin called Glinda Smlinda around a campfire. That&#8217;s it, that&#8217;s the game.<\/p>\n<p>The issue I have is when this preference is put forward as a matter of moral imperative\u2014the idea that modern WoW is somehow this corrupt, anti-gamer monolith that must be wrangled back to the way things were. I will say it plain: This shit sucks, it&#8217;s annoying and it&#8217;s subtractive and it&#8217;s exhausting.<\/p>\n<div>\n<blockquote>\n<p>It&#8217;s pretty unhealthy to make an actual identity and personhood out of a videogame you play.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<p>From a personal perspective, it&#8217;s pretty unhealthy to make an actual identity and personhood out of a videogame you play, and it&#8217;s certainly not subversive or impactful to make yourself a staunch defender of the old ways online. Because the truth is, Blizzard couldn&#8217;t give a toss if we like modern WoW or not\u2014it&#8217;s all umbrella&#8217;d under the same price point, we&#8217;re all pulling from the same buffet. <\/p>\n<p>The community taglines the company incorporates (&#8220;putting the &#8216;war&#8217; back in &#8216;Warcraft&#8217;, for example&#8221;)? That&#8217;s kayfabe, to get you to spend money. It&#8217;s not part of a culture shift, Blizzard&#8217;s just doing what it&#8217;s proven profitable to do after years of safe success with Classic and Season of Discovery. And it&#8217;ll keep running Retail WoW because guess what, that&#8217;s also been very profitable too! Folks still play it.<\/p>\n<p>From a pettier perspective, and this is just my personal exhaustion: It&#8217;s console wars. We&#8217;re doing console war stuff. Except, rather than doing them with blocks of hardware that can at least be attributed to different experiences on the whole, we&#8217;re arguing about different versions of the same video game. Why?<\/p>\n<p>More to the point, Forever itself is kind of a counterargument to the idea that these versions of WoW have nothing to learn from each other. What&#8217;s made it interesting is how it&#8217;s reinterpreting oldschool MMO design with just a few sprinkles of convenience. I do not blame people for being in love with the past, but <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/games\/mmo\/the-mmos-we-grew-up-with-are-gone-and-its-all-our-fault-because-we-loved-them-to-death\/\">we can&#8217;t be trapped in it forever<\/a>, but saber-rattling and name-calling over it? We shouldn&#8217;t do that to ourselves, or each other. We should (and I know this is a vain hope) be normal on the internet.<\/p>\n<div class=\"product\"><a data-dimension112=\"94d6fa82-bc08-11f1-9747-75a98088c167\" data-action=\"Deal Block\" data-label=\"Best MMOs\" data-dimension48=\"Best MMOs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><\/p>\n<figure class=\"van-image-figure \" >\n<div class='image-full-width-wrapper'>\n<div class='image-widthsetter' style=\"max-width:316px;\">\n<p class=\"vanilla-image-block\" style=\"padding-top:100.00%;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"UjCJY9gjRfatHZjCuGMrhR\" name=\"elden ring square cheer.jpg\" caption=\"\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/stop-trying-to-make-a-console-war-out-of-which-wow-is-better-youre-all-exhausting-2.jpg\" mos=\"\" align=\"middle\" fullscreen=\"\" width=\"316\" height=\"316\" attribution=\"\" endorsement=\"\" credit=\"\" class=\"\"><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/the-best-mmos\/\" target=\"_blank\" data-dimension112=\"94d6fa82-bc08-11f1-9747-75a98088c167\" data-action=\"Deal Block\" data-label=\"Best MMOs\" data-dimension48=\"Best MMOs\" data-dimension25=\"\"><strong>Best MMOs<\/strong><\/a>: Most massive<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/the-best-strategy-games\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Best strategy games<\/strong><\/a>: Number crunching<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/best-open-world-games\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Best open world games<\/strong><\/a>: Unlimited exploration<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/the-best-survival-games-on-pc\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Best survival games<\/strong><\/a>: Live craft love<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/best-horror-games\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Best horror games<\/strong><\/a>: Fight or flight<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/games\/world-of-warcraft\/stop-trying-to-make-a-console-war-out-of-which-wow-is-better-youre-all-exhausting\/\">Source<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve been very much enjoying the World of Warcraft: Forever beta\u2014and I will be the first to cop to the fact I think it&#8217;s recapturing a lot of the essence of an oldschool MMO that we lost. Tongue in my cheek, I&#8217;ll even join in with the &#8220;reject modernity&#8221; crowd. But, crucially, I&#8217;ll be doing so as a joke. I&#8217;ve noticed, skimming my hand across the surface of the discourse, a propensity for folks to be getting up in arms about which version of their favorite MMO was better and to do so loudly, passionately, and obnoxiously. These factions stand divided: The Church of Retail Behold, the cruel efficiencies of the Church of Retail, who believe that modern WoW&#8217;s conveniences, that their hoards of amassed&hellip;<\/p>\n<p class=\"excerpt-more\"><a class=\"blog-excerpt button\" href=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/news\/stop-trying-to-make-a-console-war-out-of-which-wow-is-better-youre-all-exhausting\/\">Read More&#8230;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1704580,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[336],"tags":[748,135,1080],"class_list":["post-1704579","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-pc-gamer","tag-games","tag-mmo","tag-world-of-warcraft"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Stop trying to make a console war out of which WoW is 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