{"id":1634976,"date":"2026-07-15T16:40:58","date_gmt":"2026-07-15T16:40:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/Zx2Q6VQsgvy5LqkvxWrr58"},"modified":"2026-07-15T16:40:58","modified_gmt":"2026-07-15T16:40:58","slug":"rpg-players-are-conditioned-to-think-theyre-built-different-says-josh-sawyer-so-some-of-them-hate-it-when-games-like-pillars-of-eternity-tell-them-they-cant-do-something","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/arcader.org\/news\/rpg-players-are-conditioned-to-think-theyre-built-different-says-josh-sawyer-so-some-of-them-hate-it-when-games-like-pillars-of-eternity-tell-them-they-cant-do-something\/","title":{"rendered":"RPG players are conditioned to think they&#8217;re &#8216;built different&#8217;, says Josh Sawyer, so some of them hate it when games like Pillars of Eternity tell them they can&#8217;t do something"},"content":{"rendered":"<article>\n<p>Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire is the current #40 on the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/games\/the-top-100-pc-games-2025\/\">PC Gamer Top 100<\/a> and one of my personal favourite RPGs of all time. Somehow, though, it does have its detractors. Most notably, a vocal contingent who felt that the game&#8217;s ending didn&#8217;t live up to their expectations (spoilers for Deadfire follow).<\/p>\n<p>Deadfire&#8217;s plot revolves around the reawakening of the only-mostly-dead god Eothas and your quest to stop him from doing whatever mad, damaging, irreversible thing it is he&#8217;s set his mind on doing. But bad luck, because he&#8217;s a god and you&#8217;re just a (admittedly powerful) guy. When it comes time for the showdown, you realise you never had a chance of even <em>hindering<\/em> Eothas, let alone stopping him. To a lot of players, that was an unsatisfying resolution.<\/p>\n<p>In a recent chat with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LsEQ10eAheM\" target=\"_blank\">The Examined Game<\/a>, Deadfire director Josh Sawyer reflected a little on what he was going for with Eothas&#8217; story in the game, and on players&#8217; responses to it. &#8220;You can&#8217;t stop Eothas,&#8221; said Sawyer. &#8220;You&#8217;re kind of told that point blank, and we also try to telegraph that he&#8217;s way beyond the ability to physically do anything to, but players are very conditioned by a lot of RPGs to expect, like &#8216;Yeah, but I&#8217;m built different'&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>But that expectation runs into the rocks in Deadfire. &#8220;You can help ameliorate damage, and you can make a bunch of very important decisions that have truly huge impacts, but you can&#8217;t stop him.<\/p>\n<div style=\"min-height: 250px;\">\n<div class=\"kwizly-quiz kwizly-WwqNAX\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p> <script src=\"https:\/\/kwizly.com\/embed\/WwqNAX.js\" async><\/script><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Part of that idea was going against this idea of &#8216;I&#8217;m the protagonist, I can literally do anything.&#8217; But also, within the world of Pillars of Eternity, the gods are really, really selfish even when they&#8217;re being altruistic\u2026 they manipulate mortals so much, and I was going for this idea of &#8216;Well, [Eothas] does it to you too!&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;You&#8217;re very powerful and you can do all these cool things, [but] the gods are still not going to listen to you.&#8221; And boy, ain&#8217;t that the truth. You spend most of Deadfire being buffeted by the demands of gods who could not care less about you. This is one of the reasons it&#8217;s an all-timer.<\/p>\n<p>Sawyer and the Deadfire team weren&#8217;t just doing this to screw with players, mind you. The idea was to explore types of power and the limitations of power. &#8220;You shoot lasers out of your eyes and you&#8217;re bulletproof, but mass starvation is not a thing you can punch your way out of,&#8221; said Sawyer. &#8220;So many problems are just human problems. They&#8217;re part of the reality of life and being a human being and living on this planet with other people\u2026 even in a fantastic world, there are still going to be powers that are beyond you.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>For some players, that attitude made Deadfire&#8217;s ending a tad disappointing. For me, it made it one of my favourite games of all time.<\/p>\n<div class=\"product\"><a data-dimension112=\"55783b7c-806b-11f1-ac52-b79de699736c\" data-action=\"Deal Block\" data-label=\"2026 games\" data-dimension48=\"2026 games\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><\/p>\n<figure class=\"van-image-figure \" >\n<div class='image-full-width-wrapper'>\n<div class='image-widthsetter' style=\"max-width:661px;\">\n<p class=\"vanilla-image-block\" style=\"padding-top:98.94%;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"6offQUY4CXebir2TC27dMd\" name=\"kingdom come 2 square\" caption=\"\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/rpg-players-are-conditioned-to-think-theyre-built-different-says-josh-sawyer-so-some-of-them-hate-it-when-games-like-pillars-of-eternity-tell-them-they-cant-do-something.jpg\" mos=\"\" align=\"middle\" fullscreen=\"\" width=\"661\" height=\"654\" attribution=\"\" endorsement=\"\" credit=\"\" class=\"\"><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/games\/new-pc-games-2026\/\" target=\"_blank\" data-dimension112=\"55783b7c-806b-11f1-ac52-b79de699736c\" data-action=\"Deal Block\" data-label=\"2026 games\" data-dimension48=\"2026 games\" data-dimension25=\"\"><strong>2026 games<\/strong><\/a>: All the upcoming games<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/the-best-pc-games\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Best PC games<\/strong><\/a>: Our all-time favorites<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/the-50-best-free-pc-games\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Free PC games<\/strong><\/a>: Freebie fest<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/best-fps-games\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Best FPS games<\/strong><\/a>: Finest gunplay<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/best-rpgs-of-all-time\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Best RPGs<\/strong><\/a>: Grand adventures<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/the-best-co-op-games\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Best co-op games<\/strong><\/a>: Better together<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/games\/rpg\/rpg-players-are-conditioned-to-think-theyre-built-different-says-josh-sawyer-so-some-of-them-hate-it-when-games-like-pillars-of-eternity-tell-them-they-cant-do-something\/\">Source<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire is the current #40 on the PC Gamer Top 100 and one of my personal favourite RPGs of all time. Somehow, though, it does have its detractors. Most notably, a vocal contingent who felt that the game&#8217;s ending didn&#8217;t live up to their expectations (spoilers for Deadfire follow). Deadfire&#8217;s plot revolves around the reawakening of the only-mostly-dead god Eothas and your quest to stop him from doing whatever mad, damaging, irreversible thing it is he&#8217;s set his mind on doing. But bad luck, because he&#8217;s a god and you&#8217;re just a (admittedly powerful) guy. When it comes time for the showdown, you realise you never had a chance of even hindering Eothas, let alone stopping him. To a lot of&hellip;<\/p>\n<p class=\"excerpt-more\"><a class=\"blog-excerpt button\" href=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/news\/rpg-players-are-conditioned-to-think-theyre-built-different-says-josh-sawyer-so-some-of-them-hate-it-when-games-like-pillars-of-eternity-tell-them-they-cant-do-something\/\">Read More&#8230;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1634977,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[336],"tags":[748,34],"class_list":["post-1634976","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-pc-gamer","tag-games","tag-rpg"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>RPG players are conditioned to think they&#039;re &#039;built different&#039;, says Josh Sawyer, so some of them hate it when games like Pillars of Eternity tell them they can&#039;t do something | Arcader News<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire is the current #40 on the PC Gamer Top 100 and one of my personal favourite RPGs of all time. 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