{"id":1585963,"date":"2026-05-22T21:52:41","date_gmt":"2026-05-22T21:52:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/TBhGgyfCeuQ4ftkapYYHKe"},"modified":"2026-05-22T21:52:41","modified_gmt":"2026-05-22T21:52:41","slug":"former-bungie-dev-says-youd-be-surprised-how-many-times-expansions-were-pitched-for-a-fan-favorite-destiny-archvillain-whos-now-left-hanging","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/arcader.org\/news\/former-bungie-dev-says-youd-be-surprised-how-many-times-expansions-were-pitched-for-a-fan-favorite-destiny-archvillain-whos-now-left-hanging\/","title":{"rendered":"Former Bungie dev says &#8216;you&#8217;d be surprised how many times&#8217; expansions were pitched for a fan-favorite Destiny archvillain who&#8217;s now left hanging"},"content":{"rendered":"<article>\n<p>The announcement of Destiny 2&#8217;s imminent end of live service development wasn&#8217;t entirely unexpected news, given Bungie&#8217;s well-documented struggles in recent years, but it&#8217;s an abrupt conclusion for a game series that&#8217;s now left with an uncertain future. Reportedly, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/games\/action\/bungie-isnt-immediately-making-destiny-3-is-planning-layoffs-reports-bloomberg\/\" target=\"_blank\">Bungie hasn&#8217;t yet greenlit a project for a Destiny 3<\/a>, meaning many of the setting&#8217;s ongoing narrative threads are being left without resolution for the foreseeable future.<\/p>\n<p>The threat of the Nine has gone unaddressed. The inscrutable machinations of the Vex network are still a mystery. And we may never face Xivu Arath, the Hive god of war\u2014an antagonist that Bungie had invested years of seasonal storytelling into shaping an apocalyptic menace. But according to former Bungie senior narrative designer Robert Brookes, Destiny&#8217;s devs had tried\u2014repeatedly\u2014to give Xivu Arath the debut that players have been left to dream of.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"van-image-figure inline-layout\" data-bordeaux-image-check >\n<div class='image-full-width-wrapper'>\n<div class='image-widthsetter' style=\"max-width:1920px;\">\n<p class=\"vanilla-image-block\" style=\"padding-top:56.25%;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"Giwegw7vfVPNAHiwaSJXsS\" name=\"2023_Ghost_of_the_Deep_Press_Kit_Dungeon_COMPRESSED_019.jpg\" alt=\"A Hive Guardian.\" src=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/former-bungie-dev-says-youd-be-surprised-how-many-times-expansions-were-pitched-for-a-fan-favorite-destiny-archvillain-whos-now-left-hanging.jpg\" mos=\"\" align=\"middle\" fullscreen=\"1\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" attribution=\"\" endorsement=\"\" class=\"inline expandable\"><a href='https:\/\/arcader.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/former-bungie-dev-says-youd-be-surprised-how-many-times-expansions-were-pitched-for-a-fan-favorite-destiny-archvillain-whos-now-left-hanging.jpg' target='_blank' class='expand-button icon-expand-image icon' ><\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><figcaption itemprop=\"caption description\" class=\" inline-layout\"><span class=\"credit\" itemprop=\"copyrightHolder\">(Image credit: Bungie)<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Players first learned of Xivu Arath back in Destiny 1&#8217;s Taken King expansion. As Guardians unearthed the hidden history of the Hive and their adherence to the cruel calculus of the Sword Logic, they learned that the race of intergalactic necromancers worship a trio of siblings who had ascended through ages of ritualized violence and occult sacrament into a trinity of omnicidal gods.<\/p>\n<p>Chief among them was Oryx, the Taken King himself, who players felled at the end of his expansion. Savathun, the Witch Queen, would later serve as the titular antagonist of her own expansion in Destiny 2 after snaring players in schemes and plots that stretched across the setting. And finally, Xivu Arath\u2014a bellowing, belligerent warmonger who had been built through multiple seasons of storytelling into one of the greatest extant threats in the Destiny universe. She&#8217;d become a beloved figure in the process, despite only briefly appearing on-screen\u2014and now she might never arrive in earnest.<\/p>\n<p>According to Brookes, however, that wasn&#8217;t for lack of effort. <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/Sphynxian\/status\/2057637932652003392?s=20\">Responding on X<\/a> to one of the many players expressing disappointment over Xivu Arath never getting her own expansion before Destiny 2&#8217;s abrupt ending, Brookes\u2014who had worked at Bungie from 2020 to 2024\u2014said &#8220;you&#8217;d be surprised how many times this was pitched for D2.&#8221; <\/p>\n<figure class=\"van-image-figure inline-layout\" data-bordeaux-image-check >\n<div class='image-full-width-wrapper'>\n<div class='image-widthsetter' style=\"max-width:3840px;\">\n<p class=\"vanilla-image-block\" style=\"padding-top:56.25%;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"7YdxwhGhYiTKN2xGWugagV\" name=\"Destiny 2 Heresy High Heresy Cinematic 00-01-11\" alt=\"A projection of Xivu Arath looming over Saturn in Destiny 2.\" src=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/former-bungie-dev-says-youd-be-surprised-how-many-times-expansions-were-pitched-for-a-fan-favorite-destiny-archvillain-whos-now-left-hanging.png\" mos=\"\" align=\"middle\" fullscreen=\"1\" width=\"3840\" height=\"2160\" attribution=\"\" endorsement=\"\" class=\"inline expandable\"><a href='https:\/\/arcader.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/former-bungie-dev-says-youd-be-surprised-how-many-times-expansions-were-pitched-for-a-fan-favorite-destiny-archvillain-whos-now-left-hanging.png' target='_blank' class='expand-button icon-expand-image icon' ><\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><figcaption itemprop=\"caption description\" class=\" inline-layout\"><span class=\"credit\" itemprop=\"copyrightHolder\">(Image credit: Bungie)<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Brookes&#8217; comment indicates that there had been a repeated effort to give Xivu Arath a full story campaign treatment, and while that&#8217;s frustrating, I don&#8217;t know that it <em>is <\/em>surprising. She was the central antagonist of 2023&#8217;s Season of the Deep, which granted her a striking amount of humanity even as she spent her interactions with the player howling caps lock-captioned threats. She remained a driving force in the following Season of the Witch, and\u2014in the wake of The Final Shape\u2014appeared for the climactic capstone of Episode: Heresy with fellow beloved Destiny baddie Eris Morn.<\/p>\n<p>Xivu Arath&#8217;s continued emphasis in Destiny&#8217;s ongoing narrative felt like an obvious escalation towards her own expansion. But as the fallout of Sony&#8217;s troubled 2022 acquisition of Bungie compounded, causing continued layoffs and studio turmoil as Bungie&#8217;s new owners were <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/gaming-industry\/sony-has-seen-enough-3-years-after-acquiring-bungie-sony-says-the-days-of-independence-are-over-and-its-future-is-to-become-part-of-playstation-studios\/\">left footing the bill<\/a> for damage dealt by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/gaming-industry\/eat-s-pete-in-a-rare-moment-of-unity-destiny-players-bid-good-riddance-to-departing-bungie-ceo-pete-parsons\/\">years of misguided leadership<\/a> under its former CEO and vintage car enthusiast Pete Parsons, Xivu Arath&#8217;s time in the spotlight never materialized.<\/p>\n<p>Instead, Destiny 2 was made to suffer through Edge of Fate, an expansion that earned a dreadful reception and dwindling player numbers. Renegades, the Star Wars-themed followup that must have seemed to someone in a boardroom like a surefire way to coax revenue out of D2&#8217;s remaining players, couldn&#8217;t manage a redemption arc.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"van-image-figure inline-layout\" data-bordeaux-image-check >\n<div class='image-full-width-wrapper'>\n<div class='image-widthsetter' style=\"max-width:3840px;\">\n<p class=\"vanilla-image-block\" style=\"padding-top:56.25%;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"9phhtx45bVX9j4gxW6GaZb\" name=\"Destiny 2 Heresy Xivu Arath Affronted Cinematic 00-00-26\" alt=\"Xivu Arath menaces a player in the ascendant plane in Destiny 2.\" src=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/former-bungie-dev-says-youd-be-surprised-how-many-times-expansions-were-pitched-for-a-fan-favorite-destiny-archvillain-whos-now-left-hanging-1.png\" mos=\"\" align=\"middle\" fullscreen=\"1\" width=\"3840\" height=\"2160\" attribution=\"\" endorsement=\"\" class=\"inline expandable\"><a href='https:\/\/arcader.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/former-bungie-dev-says-youd-be-surprised-how-many-times-expansions-were-pitched-for-a-fan-favorite-destiny-archvillain-whos-now-left-hanging-1.png' target='_blank' class='expand-button icon-expand-image icon' ><\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><figcaption itemprop=\"caption description\" class=\" inline-layout\"><span class=\"credit\" itemprop=\"copyrightHolder\">(Image credit: Bungie)<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Maybe someday we&#8217;ll get to clash swords with Xivu Arath as players had expected to for years. Until then, she&#8217;s yet another casualty in a long and sordid history that, as far as we know, has been brought to a sudden end.<\/p>\n<div style=\"min-height: 250px;\">\n<div class=\"kwizly-quiz kwizly-OdkrAW\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p> <script src=\"https:\/\/kwizly.com\/embed\/OdkrAW.js\" async><\/script><\/p>\n<div class=\"product\"><a data-dimension112=\"7713222b-3434-437c-8a38-90d16ec65d50\" data-action=\"Deal Block\" data-label=\"2026 games\" data-dimension48=\"2026 games\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><\/p>\n<figure class=\"van-image-figure \" >\n<div class='image-full-width-wrapper'>\n<div class='image-widthsetter' style=\"max-width:661px;\">\n<p class=\"vanilla-image-block\" style=\"padding-top:98.94%;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"6offQUY4CXebir2TC27dMd\" name=\"kingdom come 2 square\" caption=\"\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/former-bungie-dev-says-youd-be-surprised-how-many-times-expansions-were-pitched-for-a-fan-favorite-destiny-archvillain-whos-now-left-hanging-1.jpg\" mos=\"\" align=\"middle\" fullscreen=\"\" width=\"661\" height=\"654\" attribution=\"\" endorsement=\"\" credit=\"\" class=\"\"><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/games\/new-pc-games-2026\/\" target=\"_blank\" data-dimension112=\"7713222b-3434-437c-8a38-90d16ec65d50\" data-action=\"Deal Block\" data-label=\"2026 games\" data-dimension48=\"2026 games\" data-dimension25=\"\"><strong>2026 games<\/strong><\/a>: All the upcoming games<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/the-best-pc-games\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Best PC games<\/strong><\/a>: Our all-time favorites<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/the-50-best-free-pc-games\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Free PC games<\/strong><\/a>: Freebie fest<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/best-fps-games\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Best FPS games<\/strong><\/a>: Finest gunplay<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/best-rpgs-of-all-time\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Best RPGs<\/strong><\/a>: Grand adventures<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/the-best-co-op-games\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Best co-op games<\/strong><\/a>: Better together<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/games\/fps\/former-bungie-dev-says-youd-be-surprised-how-many-times-expansions-were-pitched-for-a-fan-favorite-destiny-archvillain-whos-now-left-hanging\/\">Source<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The announcement of Destiny 2&#8217;s imminent end of live service development wasn&#8217;t entirely unexpected news, given Bungie&#8217;s well-documented struggles in recent years, but it&#8217;s an abrupt conclusion for a game series that&#8217;s now left with an uncertain future. 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