{"id":1407121,"date":"2025-11-27T16:02:23","date_gmt":"2025-11-27T16:02:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/NKfUdWVk9g8hY43XKLytA"},"modified":"2025-11-27T16:02:23","modified_gmt":"2025-11-27T16:02:23","slug":"gaming-pc-with-bizarre-chinese-made-but-amd-derived-16-core-x86-cpu-and-nvidia-graphics-goes-on-sale-but-only-in-china-for-now","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/arcader.org\/news\/gaming-pc-with-bizarre-chinese-made-but-amd-derived-16-core-x86-cpu-and-nvidia-graphics-goes-on-sale-but-only-in-china-for-now\/","title":{"rendered":"Gaming PC with bizarre Chinese-made but AMD-derived 16-core x86 CPU and Nvidia graphics goes on sale, but only in China for now"},"content":{"rendered":"<article>\n<p>Chinese PC gaming specialist Thunderobot has launched a new PC based on an x86 chip not made by AMD or Intel (via <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.notebookcheck.net\/Thunderobot-teases-gaming-desktop-with-16-core-Chinese-processor-to-rival-modern-Intel-processors.1171401.0.html\" target=\"_blank\">Notebookcheck<\/a>). Instead, the 16-core chip is a Hygon C86-4G CPU. But here&#8217;s the twist. That Hygon C86 is actually derived from AMD&#8217;s first-gen Zen CPU architecture. What?<\/p>\n<p>Yep, <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/weibo.com\/3977995721\/QfCDNl0lY\" target=\"_blank\">Thunderobot has announced the Black Warrior Hunter Pro desktop<\/a> with the Hygon C86 chip. Thunderobot claims it is China&#8217;s &#8220;first domestically produced gaming PC.&#8221; For now, the rest of the specifications aren&#8217;t clear, but the system has been pictured configured with a large, unidentified Nvidia RTX GPU fitted.<\/p>\n<p>So, what exactly is going on here? This is all a bit complicated. But it turns out that <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/china-starts-building-x86-processors-based-on-amds-zen-architecture\/\" target=\"_blank\">AMD entered into a hugely complex licensing arrangement with Chinese chip producer Hygon<\/a> way back in 2016. Reports from years ago imply the move was made somewhat out of desperation, what with AMD being so strapped for cash at the time.<\/p>\n<p>Immediately, the question of how any of this is possible leaps to mind, what with hugely complex cross-licensing arrangements between Intel and AMD that effectively prevent any other company from getting in on the x86 CPU game.<\/p>\n<p>Well, apparently AMD made it possible with a complicated commercial setup involving joint ventures, holding companies, licensing arrangements and so on. AMD apparently holds a critical 51% stake in the critical Haiguang Microelectronics Co. Ltd joint venture, otherwise known as HMC.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"van-image-figure inline-layout\" data-bordeaux-image-check >\n<div class='image-full-width-wrapper'>\n<div class='image-widthsetter' style=\"max-width:865px;\">\n<p class=\"vanilla-image-block\" style=\"padding-top:69.71%;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"6zDph3k2kvoQNmG55jgnmB\" name=\"Hygon C86\" alt=\"Hygon C86 CPU\" src=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/gaming-pc-with-bizarre-chinese-made-but-amd-derived-16-core-x86-cpu-and-nvidia-graphics-goes-on-sale-but-only-in-china-for-now.webp\" mos=\"\" align=\"middle\" fullscreen=\"\" width=\"865\" height=\"603\" attribution=\"\" endorsement=\"\" class=\"\"><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><figcaption itemprop=\"caption description\" class=\" inline-layout\"><span class=\"caption-text\">The Hygon C86 is apparently derived from AMD&#8217;s ancient Zen 1 architecture, circa 2017. <\/span><span class=\"credit\" itemprop=\"copyrightHolder\">(Image credit: Hygon)<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The machinations described by <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tomshardware.com\/news\/china-zen-x86-processor-dryhana,37417.html\" target=\"_blank\">Tom&#8217;s Hardware<\/a> sound slightly preposterous and involve HMC licensing some x86 IP to Hygon, which then designs chips and sells those designs to HMC. HMC then employs a foundry to make the chips, and then sells all of those chips to Hygon, which then markets them. Bananas.<\/p>\n<p>The IP mentioned is apparently based on Zen 1, so the resulting CPUs are closely related to AMD&#8217;s original Ryzen chips from way back in 2017. The Hygon C86-4G is said to have a modest base clock of 2.8 GHz. <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/mp.weixin.qq.com\/s\/rN7fmv7RoMjoBOvHpZ4lVg\" target=\"_blank\">So, claims that it achieves 1,072 single-core points in Geekbench 6<\/a> probably make sense.<\/p>\n<p>An <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/browser.geekbench.com\/processors\/amd-ryzen-7-1800x\" target=\"_blank\">AMD Ryzen 7 1800X scores around 1,250 points<\/a> with a base clock of 3.6 GHz. On a per-clock basis, that would actually make the Chinese chip a bit more performant. So, perhaps some enhancements have been made.<\/p>\n<p>Whatever, this all adds up to vaguely respectable, but hardly stellar performance. Would you want to buy a new gaming PC with one of these Hygon C86-4G chips? Basically, no. But with 16 cores and support for 32 threads, the machines could be interesting for tasks like video encoding, where multi-threaded performance matters most. Well, with the proviso that the price would still need to be very low.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking of which, there&#8217;s no indication of pricing for now. Moreover, while <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/stores\/page\/D902284E-432B-4225-BE83-F506F4D18D34\/deals?\" target=\"_blank\">Thunderobot does sell gaming machines, mostly laptops, into the US market on Amazon<\/a>, we very much doubt we&#8217;ll be seeing this desktop with a Chinese x86 chip on sale outside of China any time soon.<\/p>\n<\/article>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/hardware\/processors\/gaming-pc-with-bizarre-chinese-made-but-amd-derived-16-core-x86-cpu-and-nvidia-graphics-goes-on-sale-but-only-in-china-for-now\/\">Source<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Chinese PC gaming specialist Thunderobot has launched a new PC based on an x86 chip not made by AMD or Intel (via Notebookcheck). Instead, the 16-core chip is a Hygon C86-4G CPU. But here&#8217;s the twist. That Hygon C86 is actually derived from AMD&#8217;s first-gen Zen CPU architecture. What? Yep, Thunderobot has announced the Black Warrior Hunter Pro desktop with the Hygon C86 chip. Thunderobot claims it is China&#8217;s &#8220;first domestically produced gaming PC.&#8221; For now, the rest of the specifications aren&#8217;t clear, but the system has been pictured configured with a large, unidentified Nvidia RTX GPU fitted. So, what exactly is going on here? This is all a bit complicated. But it turns out that AMD entered into a hugely complex licensing arrangement with&hellip;<\/p>\n<p class=\"excerpt-more\"><a class=\"blog-excerpt button\" href=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/news\/gaming-pc-with-bizarre-chinese-made-but-amd-derived-16-core-x86-cpu-and-nvidia-graphics-goes-on-sale-but-only-in-china-for-now\/\">Read More&#8230;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1407122,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[336],"tags":[66,10710],"class_list":["post-1407121","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-pc-gamer","tag-hardware","tag-processors"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Gaming PC with bizarre Chinese-made but AMD-derived 16-core x86 CPU and Nvidia graphics goes on sale, but only in China for now | Arcader News<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Chinese PC gaming specialist Thunderobot has launched a new PC based on an x86 chip not made by AMD or Intel (via Notebookcheck). 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