{"id":1261240,"date":"2026-03-03T09:10:13","date_gmt":"2026-03-03T09:10:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/?p=615924"},"modified":"2026-03-03T09:10:13","modified_gmt":"2026-03-03T09:10:13","slug":"fantastic-fours-credits-scenes-fuel-a-raging-avengers-doomsday-rumor-fire","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/arcader.org\/news\/fantastic-fours-credits-scenes-fuel-a-raging-avengers-doomsday-rumor-fire\/","title":{"rendered":"Fantastic Four\u2019s credits scenes fuel a raging Avengers: Doomsday rumor fire"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure> <img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" data-caption=\"Robert Downey Jr. unveiling himself as Doctor Doom at SDCC 2024\" data-portal-copyright=\"\" data-has-syndication-rights=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/fantastic-fours-credits-scenes-fuel-a-raging-avengers-doomsday-rumor-fire.jpg\" \/><figcaption>Robert Downey Jr. unveiling himself as Doctor Doom at SDCC 2024<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">The mid-credit and post-credit scenes in <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/marvel\/615093\/fantastic-four-first-steps-mcu-review\">The Fantastic Four: First Steps<\/a><\/em> go where you think they\u2019ll go\u2026 at least, until you stop to think, <em>What does this <\/em>really<em> mean?<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">In spite of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/24065485\/mcu-post-credits-teases-sequels-rumors\">dangling plot threads<\/a> scattered across 17 years of post-credit scene teasers, Marvel has yet to slow down its efforts in dangling a sequel carrot at the end of every MCU movie. We even get mid-credit scenes now, too! That\u2019s a lot of setup potential.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">But the one plopped into <em>Fantastic Four <\/em>might be the clearest alley-oop in Marvel history. All roads lead to <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/marvel\/547509\/tom-hiddleston-loki-avengers-doomsday-timeline-how\">Avengers: Doomsday<\/a><\/em>, currently in production. But how this mishmash of MCU Phases 5 and 6 and Kevin Feige\u2019s rewired continuity plans come together in a coherent, fulfilling way is the real mystery teased in this brief look ahead.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">[<strong>Ed. note: <\/strong>This post contains major spoilers for the ending of <em>The Fantastic Four: First Steps<\/em>, including the credits scenes.]<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">What happens (and doesn\u2019t) in Fantastic Four\u2019s mid-credits scene<\/h2>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">Hello, Doctor Doom!&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">(Or maybe it\u2019s just Mr. Doom? The comics have yet to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/AskScienceFiction\/comments\/6e3td3\/marvel_does_doctor_doom_have_a_legitimate\/\">verify Victor\u2019s doctorate diploma<\/a>\u2026)<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">Marvel\u2019s much, <em>much<\/em>-anticipated #1 Latverian baddie seemingly pops up in a mid-credits sequence set #four-years after the events of <em>First Steps<\/em>. Marvel has yet to confirm whether that\u2019s Robert Downey Jr., star of 2026\u2019s <em>Avengers: Doomsday<\/em>, under the mask. In the scene, we only see a single shot of Doom crouching in front of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/e\/615574\">super-toddler Franklin Richards<\/a>, mask in hand, green-caped-and-hooded back toward the camera. Amazingly, it\u2019s not too far off from this AI-generated fan video published days before opening??? People are sick.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<div>\n<div><iframe title=\"The Fantastic Four: First Steps - Dr. Doom Credit Scene\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/x-ahBVkPGuE?rel=0\" allowfullscreen allow=\"accelerometer *; clipboard-write *; encrypted-media *; gyroscope *; picture-in-picture *; web-share *;\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">The scene still gets the brain-gears turning: Like Galactus, who <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=XsjvOQGBCcg\">wanted that baby<\/a>, Doom knows Reed and Sue\u2019s dear sweet son Franklin is a special lad. As depicted, in the time it takes Sue to go retrieve a picture book from the shelf, Doom has crept into the Richards\u2019 Baxter Building apartment and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=UFFJhO90VN8\">gone full Steve Buscemi in <em>Con Air<\/em><\/a> on the poor unsuspecting child. What he intends to do next, and how that bridges <em>Avengers: Doomsday<\/em>, is the big unknown. Is this Doom from Earth-828, the dimension in which the Fantastic Four exist, or has he traveled from another pocket of the multiverse?<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">Doom may not even exist on Earth-828, the Fantastic Four\u2019s home planet\/multiverse designation. His traditional stomping grounds of Latveria certainly does \u2014\u00a0we see signs marking its ambassador\u2019s seat when the Fantastic Four visit the United Nations. But if a version of Victor von Doom inhabits <em>First Steps<\/em>\u2019 version of Earth, he isn\u2019t enough of a threat to the world to earn a name-check alongside villains <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/marvel\/518804\/fantastic-four-john-malkovich-red-ghost-nathaniel-richards\">Red Ghost<\/a>, Puppet Master, Wizard, and Diablo. Maybe that dimension\u2019s version of Doom actually graduated from medical school and opened a practice?<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">The alternative is that this Doom stepped out of a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/22537327\/loki-tva-time-travel-cops\">TVA-esque<\/a> portal from another plane of existence, knowing that Franklin was a precious source of cosmic power. (Or more specifically, the <a href=\"https:\/\/marvel.fandom.com\/wiki\/Power_Cosmic\">Power Cosmic<\/a>.) There\u2019s plenty of reason to think that\u2019s true, based on what we know about <em>Avengers: Doomsday<\/em>. But before we get to that: the actual shocker of <em>First Steps<\/em>\u2019 mid-credits scene.<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">Earlier this summer, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/marvel\/566333\/thunderbolts-review-marvel-florence-pugh-sebastian-stan\">Thunderbolts*<\/a><\/em> wrapped up with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/marvel\/567448\/thunderbolts-post-credit-scenes-fantastic-four-teaser\">a post-credits scene<\/a> that set a clear stage for future Marvel movies: the Fantastic Four\u2019s ship is spotted heading toward <a href=\"https:\/\/screenrant.com\/earth-616-or-19999-the-mcus-universe-number-finally-has-an-official-answer\/\">Earth-616, the main MCU setting<\/a>. In the tag, the New Avengers spot an \u201cextra-dimensional\u201d craft, the Fantastic Four\u2019s spaceship, blasting through Earth\u2019s atmosphere. The reveal looms over so much of <em>First Steps<\/em>, from the team\u2019s brush with a black hole in deep space to its ultimate plot to punch Galactus through a homemade portal on Earth \u2014 you\u2019re just <em>waiting<\/em> for Reed, Sue, Johnny, and Ben to get zapped from 828 to 616. <em>Oh, they\u2019re saving it for the post-credits scene, of course!<\/em> I thought. Nope.<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">Despite that cameo from what we have to assume is Doctor Doom (unless it\u2019s some tricky fake-out, like <a href=\"https:\/\/marvel.fandom.com\/wiki\/Doombot_C-53_(Earth-616)\">a Doombot<\/a>), possibly traversing the multiverse, <em>Fantastic Four: First Steps<\/em> plays out entirely in the 828 universe. The <em>Thunderbolts*<\/em> stinger remains on the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/24065485\/mcu-post-credits-teases-sequels-rumors\">yet-to-be-paid-off Marvel credits-scene tease list<\/a>. So what does it all mean for <em>Avengers: Doomsday<\/em>? Casting, leaks, and rumors paint a potential picture.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-none\">Franklin, Avengers: Doomsday, and the road to Secret Wars (spoilers)<\/h2>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/fantastic-fours-credits-scenes-fuel-a-raging-avengers-doomsday-rumor-fire-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" data-has-syndication-rights=\"1\" data-caption=\"\" data-portal-copyright=\"\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">Here\u2019s what we definitively know about <em>Avengers: Doomsday<\/em>:<\/p>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Joe and Anthony Russo (<em>Avengers: Endgame<\/em>) are back directing the picture.<\/li>\n<li>The movie is scheduled for release on Dec. 16, 2026.<\/li>\n<li>Robert Downey Jr. leads an ensemble that includes the cast members from <em>Fantastic Four: First Steps<\/em>, <em>Thunderbolts*<\/em>, past Avengers movies, and even the 20th Century Fox-era X-Men movies. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/marvel\/547051\/avengers-doomsday-cast-announcement-livestream\">It\u2019s stacked.<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">That\u2019s it! While photos from the in-production film are slipping out from the set, even the leaks are mundane. Would you believe Ebon Moss-Bachrach\u2019s The Thing was spotted on a spaceship bridge alongside Wyatt Russell\u2019s U.S. Agent? <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/DL2nOEXMpFk\/\">Believe it!<\/a>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">But <em>Fantastic Four: First Steps<\/em> confirming that Doom is after Franklin, and potentially hunting him from across the multiverse, empowers a major rumor that has only existed as whispers. As the story goes, <em>Doomsday<\/em> will lift heavy inspiration from Jonathan Hickman\u2019s writing runs on <em>Avengers<\/em>, <em>New Avengers<\/em>, and the culmination, 2015\u2019s <em>Secret Wars<\/em>, and find the ol\u2019 Doctor orchestrating multiversal madness in order to become a god-tier entity reigning over a single cobbled-together universe. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/2020\/4\/6\/21209537\/marvel-comics-infinity-gauntlet-black-panther-iron-man-jonathan-hickman-secret-wars-x-men\">Here\u2019s a deeper dive into all those shenanigans<\/a>, because boy, it\u2019s a lot!<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">But in short: Instead of obtaining the power of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.marvel.com\/characters\/beyonder\">the Beyonders<\/a>, <em>Doomsday<\/em> Doom could wield an Omega-level mutant to condense a multiverse into what in the comics is known as Battleworld \u2014 the main locale of Secret Wars (and theoretical main locale of <em>Avengers: Secret Wars<\/em>, coming to theaters in 2027).&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">A good chunk of <em>Doomsday<\/em> could focus on a clash between Avengers and X-Men with RDJ\u2019s Doom cackling in the background, with a kidnapped Franklin by his side. The premise certainly gives the Fantastic Four a reason to breach their multiversal walls and zip over to 616 to meet the New Avengers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">Is this Doctor Doom actually a variant of Tony Stark? <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/24208774\/robert-downey-jr-doctor-doom-marvel-doomsday\">It\u2019s not unheard of.<\/a> But Feige and director Matt Shakman resist the urge to give even a modicum of real info away by the end of <em>Fantastic Four: First Steps<\/em> \u2014 only the promise of more. Expect a steady stream of rumors for the next 18 months.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-none\">Oh wait, what about the post-credits scene?<\/h2>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-none\">We love a just-for-fun post-credits moment, don\u2019t we, folks? James Gunn may have been poking fun at Marvel with <em>Superman<\/em>\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/movies\/611906\/supermans-post-credits-scenes-are-so-dumb-they-feel-like-a-gag-aimed-at-marvel\">double dose of credit-scene irrelevancy<\/a>, but Feige knows how to tickle the MCU fans too. The actual post-credits sequence, dropped at the very end of the credits after an inspirational Jack Kirby quote, is an extended intro sequence from the fake in-universe Fantastic Four cartoon. Produced by Titmouse, a leading purveyor of modern 2D animation, the snippet is about 8,000 times better than the actual 1994 <em>Fantastic Four<\/em> cartoon. In the absence of an actual clip from the movie, enjoy (?) this instead.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<div>\n<div><iframe title=\"Fantastic Four Cartoon Intro\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/XggH5-vLlUQ?rel=0\" allowfullscreen allow=\"accelerometer *; clipboard-write *; encrypted-media *; gyroscope *; picture-in-picture *; web-share *;\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/marvel\/615924\/fantastic-four-post-credits-doomsday-avengers-doctor-doom\">Source<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Robert Downey Jr. unveiling himself as Doctor Doom at SDCC 2024 The mid-credit and post-credit scenes in The Fantastic Four: First Steps go where you think they\u2019ll go\u2026 at least, until you stop to think, What does this really mean? In spite of dangling plot threads scattered across 17 years of post-credit scene teasers, Marvel has yet to slow down its efforts in dangling a sequel carrot at the end of every MCU movie. We even get mid-credit scenes now, too! That\u2019s a lot of setup potential.\u00a0 But the one plopped into Fantastic Four might be the clearest alley-oop in Marvel history. All roads lead to Avengers: Doomsday, currently in production. But how this mishmash of MCU Phases 5 and 6 and Kevin Feige\u2019s rewired&hellip;<\/p>\n<p class=\"excerpt-more\"><a class=\"blog-excerpt button\" href=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/news\/fantastic-fours-credits-scenes-fuel-a-raging-avengers-doomsday-rumor-fire\/\">Read More&#8230;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1261241,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[10],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1261240","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-polygon"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Fantastic Four\u2019s credits scenes fuel a raging Avengers: Doomsday rumor fire | Arcader News<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Robert Downey Jr. unveiling himself as Doctor Doom at SDCC 2024 The mid-credit and 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