{"id":1250278,"date":"2026-03-01T04:50:13","date_gmt":"2026-03-01T04:50:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/AahYb6yzcDXsUHmfP2GfHB"},"modified":"2026-03-01T04:50:13","modified_gmt":"2026-03-01T04:50:13","slug":"ken-levine-wanted-system-shock-2s-final-level-to-be-set-in-outer-space-but-the-idea-was-shot-down-by-its-senior-designers-theyre-like-dude-we-have-14-months-to-make-this-game","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/arcader.org\/news\/ken-levine-wanted-system-shock-2s-final-level-to-be-set-in-outer-space-but-the-idea-was-shot-down-by-its-senior-designers-theyre-like-dude-we-have-14-months-to-make-this-game\/","title":{"rendered":"Ken Levine wanted System Shock 2&#8217;s final level to be set in outer space, but the idea was shot down by its senior designers: &#8216;They&#8217;re like dude, we have 14 months to make this game&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<article>\n<p>System Shock 2 is a PC gaming classic, but much like its spiritual successor Bioshock, its final act isn&#8217;t as strong as the rest of the game. Its final level\u2014The Body of the Many\u2014swaps out the twisting spaceship corridors of the game&#8217;s earlier levels for what is basically a giant intestine, with you fighting through a resource-draining gauntlet of enemies. Unless you&#8217;re extremely careful, this can leave you ill-prepared for your showdown against Shodan.<\/p>\n<p>While undeniably memorable, The Body of the Many is generally considered one of the weaker parts of System Shock 2. And according to System Shock 2 designer and Bioshock creator Ken Levine, this is entirely the fault of\u2026Ken Levine.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking to Nightdive Studios&#8217; Lawrence Sonntag in a<a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=njzERtlBcB0\" target=\"_blank\"> video deep dive<\/a> Levine says this all started with an even wilder idea for System Shock 2&#8217;s finale. &#8220;I was at home one night, going for a run or something, [and] thought &#8216;Oh my god, it&#8217;d be great if you went outside the ship [in] the zero g environment&#8217;, he explains. &#8220;I was so inexperienced I had no idea what that would take.&#8221;<\/p>\n<div class=\"youtube-video\" data-nosnippet >\n<div class=\"video-aspect-box\"><iframe data-lazy-priority=\"low\" data-lazy-src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/njzERtlBcB0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Undeterred, Levine says he took this idea to Jon Chey and Rob Fermier. &#8220;They just kind of rolled their eyes at me. They&#8217;re like, &#8216;Dude we have like 14 months to make this game.'&#8221; Levine explains that building a level like that would have meant significantly expanding the scope of the project, to the detriment of the overall experience. &#8220;You don&#8217;t really want to make a level that&#8217;s so different from the rest of the game because it requires so much one-off custom work that that would make the rest of the game suffer in comparison.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Levine reckons &#8220;it would have been really cool to have that,&#8221; but he accepted the wisdom of Chey and Fermier, sort of. &#8220;I got it, but then I still went and made a level that looked entirely different and played entirely different,&#8221; he says. &#8220;I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s one of the strongest levels in the game, and that one&#8217;s completely on me because I hadn&#8217;t learned the lesson yet of, when you try to radically shift the focus of the game on a system side, it just doesn&#8217;t get the love that the rest of the game gets.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Putting aside the mistakes Levine made building System Shock 2&#8217;s climax, it&#8217;s fascinating to hear that Levine conceived of a level set outside the Von Braun, not least because this idea is explored in several of the game&#8217;s successors.<a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/uk\/dead-space\/\"> Dead Space<\/a>, which was<a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/how-resident-evil-4-turned-system-shock-3-into-dead-space\/\"> originally intended to be System Shock 3<\/a> before Visceral Games had their heads turned by<a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/uk\/resident-evil-4\/\"> Resident Evil 4<\/a>, features several sequences on the exterior of the Ishimura that are further expanded upon in Dead Space 2. Likewise, Arkane&#8217;s brilliant immersive sim<a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/uk\/prey-2017\/\"> Prey<\/a> lets players venture outside its Talos 1 space station.<\/p>\n<p>System Shock 2 recently received a long-anticipated makeover courtesy of Nightdive, which Ted Litchfield thoroughly approved of in his<a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/games\/rpg\/system-shock-2-25th-anniversary-remastered-review\/\"> System Shock 2: 25<sup>th<\/sup> Anniversary Remaster review<\/a>. Levine, meanwhile, is still beavering away on his next game Judas, which resembles a blend of Bioshock and System Shock,<a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/games\/fps\/ken-levine-clears-up-the-mystery-of-bioshock-successor-judas-and-its-strange-narrative-legos-and-i-think-i-finally-get-it\/\"> with some ambitious plans for a modular narrative<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div class=\"fancy-box\">\n<div class=\"fancy_box-title\">Best of the best<\/div>\n<div class=\"fancy_box_body\">\n<figure class=\"van-image-figure \" >\n<div class='image-full-width-wrapper'>\n<div class='image-widthsetter' >\n<p class=\"vanilla-image-block\" style=\"padding-top:56.25%;\"><img decoding=\"async\" id=\"QJ7JHgYv6WEL9dHitak4vS\" name=\"BG3 Dark Urge.png\" caption=\"\" alt=\"The Dark Urge, from Baldur's Gate 3, looks towards his accursed claws with self-disdain.\" src=\"https:\/\/arcader.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/ken-levine-wanted-system-shock-2s-final-level-to-be-set-in-outer-space-but-the-idea-was-shot-down-by-its-senior-designers-theyre-like-dude-we-have-14-months-to-make-this-game.png\" mos=\"\" link=\"\" align=\"\" fullscreen=\"\" width=\"\" height=\"\" attribution=\"\" endorsement=\"\" class=\"pinterest-pin-exclude\"><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><figcaption itemprop=\"caption description\" class=\"\"><span class=\"credit\" itemprop=\"copyrightHolder\">(Image credit: Larian Studios)<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"fancy-box__body-text\"><a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/games\/new-games-2025-upcoming-pc-release-schedule\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>2025 games<\/strong><\/a>: Upcoming releases<strong><br \/><\/strong><a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/the-best-pc-games\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Best PC games<\/strong><\/a>: All-time favorites<br \/><a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/the-50-best-free-pc-games\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Free PC games<\/strong><\/a>: Freebie fest<br \/><a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/best-fps-games\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Best FPS games<\/strong><\/a>: Finest gunplay<br \/><a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/best-rpgs-of-all-time\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Best RPGs<\/strong><\/a>: Grand adventures<br \/><a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/the-best-co-op-games\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Best co-op games<\/strong><\/a>: Better together<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/games\/fps\/ken-levine-wanted-system-shock-2s-final-level-to-be-set-in-outer-space-but-the-idea-was-shot-down-by-its-senior-designers-theyre-like-dude-we-have-14-months-to-make-this-game\/\">Source<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>System Shock 2 is a PC gaming classic, but much like its spiritual successor Bioshock, its final act isn&#8217;t as strong as the rest of the game. 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