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The ending of Scott Beck and Bryan Woods\u2019 horror movie Heretic <\/em>comes as a surprise: It\u2019s a silent, transcendent moment after a tense, dialogue-heavy story. (End spoilers ahead, as the headline suggests.) A seemingly benign man, Mr. Reed (Hugh Grant<\/a>), traps two young female Mormon missionaries in his house to test their faith and explain his own. He proclaims he\u2019s going to show them a miraculous resurrection, but his miracle turns out to be fakery and manipulation.<\/p>\n

Mr. Reed murders one of the missionaries, Sister Barnes (Sophie Thatcher) \u2014 but late in the movie, she seems to miraculously resurrect long enough to kill him, saving her partner, Sister Paxton (Chloe East). The movie ends with Sister Paxton escaping the house, staggering through its grounds, and falling. In the penultimate shot, she sees a butterfly land on her hand, and regards it with wonder \u2014 it\u2019s a callback to a line earlier in the movie, where Paxton said that after death, she\u2019d like to be resurrected as a butterfly, and visit her loved ones.<\/p>\n

The implication is that she\u2019s seen the promised miracle after all, and that now, her partner\u2019s spirit is visiting her in a new form. But the final shot of the movie shows the butterfly isn\u2019t there after all. What does it mean? Polygon asked writer-directors Bryan Woods and Scott Beck (A Quiet Place<\/a><\/em>), who discussed their take on the ending, what they want people talking about after the movie, and how Joe Dirt <\/em>helps explain it all.<\/p>\n

[Ed. note:<\/strong> This conversation has been edited and condensed for clarity.]<\/p>\n

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Polygon: I\u2019m sure a lot of people will be trying to unpack and debate Heretic<\/em>\u2019s final moment. For me, it felt like a statement about faith and belief \u2014 Sister Paxton believes Sister Barnes\u2019 spirit is with her, and takes comfort from it, so it doesn\u2019t matter whether that\u2019s objectively true or not. Can you can speak to what you meant by the contrast between those final two shots?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Scott Beck: <\/strong>Without giving our own direct feeling on the moment, what you\u2019re talking about, that it\u2019s reflecting upon the statement of belief \u2014 that is the sweet spot. We screened the movie a few times at AFI, and Fantastic Fest, and Toronto, and what\u2019s been really engaging for us is to hear many people have multiple interpretations of what that ending means, and how that intersects with their own sense of self, and their own sense of how they view the world.<\/p>\n

Sometimes, days later, we hear that they\u2019ve reflected upon it in a different way. And that, to us, is kind of the beauty of life \u2014 not be stuck in stasis, or stuck in the certainty of \u201cThis is the only way to view the world around me,\u201d or to view a relationship or non-relationship with faith, belief, disbelief. To keep your eyes and ears open and interact with the world in a way that is both reactionary and proactive, but you\u2019re always kind of being fluid in the way that you view the world.<\/p>\n

Bryan Woods: <\/strong>It\u2019s a very difficult thing to talk about, because we make the movie, we spend three years trying to put this conversation in a cinematic context, and we\u2019re timid about coming in with our thoughts about what we were trying to say. Then it reduces that experience to a soundbite.<\/p>\n

Beck: <\/strong>It\u2019s an ending by design to leave it with the audience. That\u2019s really it. The ambition is to deliver questions, and not to necessarily deliver an answer, because more than anything, this to us would be a take-home movie.<\/p>\n

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Woods: <\/strong>I know that there\u2019s this feeling \u2014 people get to the end and they\u2019re kind of curious, are we coming out on belief or disbelief? Which is it? Which is maybe too binary for what we\u2019re talking about. But one of the things we\u2019re certainly discussing in the film is a critique of certainty, and a critique of \u2014 in life, whether it\u2019s religion or politics or even moviegoing, this feeling of, \u201cI know what\u2019s right, and you\u2019re wrong.\u201d We hate that, because that kills conversation, and then no dialogue exists.<\/p>\n

Our taste ranges from lowbrow movies to highbrow movies. We\u2019re all over the map. I love a good lowbrow, broad comedy like Joe Dirt<\/em>, but if somebody came up to me and said, \u201cI know that Joe Dirt<\/em> is the greatest movie of all time,\u201d I would be like, \u201cYou\u2019re terrifying me.\u201d That\u2019s scary to me.<\/p>\n

Beck: <\/strong>But if they said it\u2019s the worst movie of all time, I also would disagree with that, too!<\/p>\n

Woods: <\/strong>That would also be scary! So then you apply that to politics, and you apply that to discourse and religion, and therein lies one of the things we\u2019re attempting to get out of this.<\/p>\n

Beck: <\/strong>I feel like the internet has made human beings seem dumb, but that\u2019s not the case. We\u2019re all very complex intellectual people that don\u2019t share 100% of the same views, and we can\u2019t all be lumped into one group. And that\u2019s what I feel like culture has cultivated right now. And that\u2019s a shame. And I hope there\u2019s a way to get over this hump of where we are currently as a society .<\/p>\n

Woods: <\/strong>And it\u2019s hard, because of the digital aspect of social media. We\u2019re not present together as people. We\u2019re on screens, and we\u2019re commenting, and it just dehumanizes the conversation. And that\u2019s part of the problem, I think as well.<\/p>\n

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What\u2019s the ideal way you want people to walk away from this movie? What do you want them to be talking about or thinking about?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Beck: <\/strong>I hope they\u2019re thinking about their own relationship to their ideologies. Whether it is coming from an atheist perspective or a perspective steeped in rich belief, I hope it\u2019s a conversation, a conversation that echoes what Brian and I had over the last almost 30 years of friendship. Why have we come to the conclusions we came to? To us, the relationship with these great existential questions is ever-evolving.<\/p>\n

That\u2019s the fun of life \u2014 the mysteries of life, the pursuit of questioning what is around you, and how to be a good human being, and how to interact with the world through that lens. So we hope that there is a lot of introspection, that people can engage with it at that level.<\/p>\n

Woods: <\/strong>And talk about it. We\u2019re at an interesting point in culture \u2014 certainly American culture, but I am sure there\u2019s a kind of global feeling about this too, where it\u2019s hard to talk about things. The internet dramatizes sides. You\u2019re either here or you\u2019re there, and fuck everybody else. When the reality is, we\u2019re all probably somewhere on the spectrum.<\/p>\n

And the idea of being able to have a civil conversation about anything has almost completely disappeared. So one of our hopes was to dramatize a conversation about religion, a thing that is difficult, that you\u2019re almost not supposed to talk about \u2014 dramatize it to the most extreme level, so that any conversation that follows the film will feel civil and cordial by comparison to the experience that hopefully the audience just had.<\/p>\n

And if we can translate a cinematic conversation to a conversation that people have at dinner after they see the film, for us, that would be the equivalent of a home run. That would be really special. Even if they just talk about religion for five minutes after seeing the movie, that would be a win as well.<\/p>\n

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Heretic is in theaters now.<\/em><\/p>\n

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The ending of Scott Beck and Bryan Woods\u2019 horror movie Heretic comes as a surprise: It\u2019s a silent, transcendent moment after a tense, dialogue-heavy story. (End spoilers ahead, as the headline suggests.) A seemingly benign man, Mr. Reed (Hugh Grant), traps two young female Mormon missionaries in his house to test their faith and explain his own. He proclaims he\u2019s going to show them a miraculous resurrection, but his miracle turns out to be fakery and manipulation. Mr. Reed murders one of the missionaries, Sister Barnes (Sophie Thatcher) \u2014 but late in the movie, she seems to miraculously resurrect long enough to kill him, saving her partner, Sister Paxton (Chloe East). The movie ends with Sister Paxton escaping the house, staggering through its grounds, and falling.…<\/p>\n

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