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This week I’ve been:<\/strong> Hardware nerd by day, philosopher by night, as I’ve been rushing to get my Ph.D. thesis finished for its fast-approaching deadline. Oh, and refreshing Amazon pages for some peripherals and other doodads I’m on the lookout for, ever-hopeful and ever-disappointed by UK deal prices.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

It’s been a long time coming but we now have official confirmation of the AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D<\/a>, AMD’s first 9000-series 3D V-Cache CPU. We’ve been told all sorts, including core count, clock speed, TDP, and the fact that the processor will sit on its cache rather than donning it like a hat.<\/p>\n

Oh, and we’ve been told its price: $479. That’s $30 more than the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D<\/a> went for at launch, but it’s not too bad, especially given it’ll be unlocked for overclocking. It’s especially “not bad”, however, compared to Intel’s Core Ultra 200S Arrow Lake chips.<\/p>\n

To put it in context a little, the Intel Core Ultra 9 285K<\/a>, the flagship CPU spearheading Intel’s Arrow Lake line-up, costs $589, ie, over $100 more than the upcoming 9800X3D. The 9800X3D’s pricing seals the deal, as far as I’m concerned: Intel’s latest chips are straight-up not good enough value for gaming. Which is quite the blunder when you think about it, given AMD’s Zen 5 launch was hardly spectacular.<\/p>\n

The 285K’s pricing wouldn’t be such a disaster if it was a great performer\u2014the previous-gen Intel flagships cost more than the 7800X3D, after all\u2014but it isn’t. In Nick’s testing he found it to lag behind the competition in a lot of applications and games (although it does have low power consumption going for it). It not only loses to AMD’s current-gen high-end CPUs, but trades blows with previous-gen Intel ones.<\/p>\n

$589 seems a whole lot of money for a whole load of nothing special.<\/p>\n

It even performs on par with or worse than the Ryzen 5 7600X in games, and the latter is currently going for $208 on Amazon<\/a>. Nobody’s going to pick up the 285K for gaming, and given the Core Ultra 5 245K<\/a> costs $309 and obviously performs even worse than the 285K, nobody’s going to pick that up for gaming either.<\/p>\n

Ditto the $395 Core Ultra 7 265K, which arguably fares a little better on the value front but still doesn’t hold a candle to even AMD’s previous-gen offerings such as the 7700X and 7800X3D.<\/p>\n

Now AMD’s announced that we’re about to have a sub-$500 next-gen X3D chip that’s capable of being overclocked and has higher clock speeds than the 7800X3D to boot. As far as gaming’s concerned, this looks like a death blow for Arrow Lake. That does depend on AMD’s chip actually being as good as it sounds on paper, though.<\/p>\n

And yes, the 7800X3D might look expensive next to the AMD Ryzen 7 9700X<\/a>, which is currently going for about $312 at Newegg (with promo code BFDDYA55)<\/a>, but there’s always been a surcharge for 3D V-Cache chips. And at any rate, this only serves to bolster the 9000-series in comparison to the Core Ultra 200S-series.<\/p>\n

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Throw the non-X3D 9000-series prices into the mix and there’s little room left for Arrow Lake at all\u2014certainly not for gaming. Sure, they’re low-power: that’s a genuine boon for Intel’s Lunar Lake mobile processors, but not so much for Arrow Lake ones, because people care less about squeezing every ounce of efficiency out of a desktop CPU.<\/p>\n

Now throw the 9800X3D into the mix, too, with a price tag over $100 cheaper than the 285K, and Arrow Lake starts to look a little silly.<\/p>\n

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Especially considering upgrading means changing your entire platform to use a new socket, whereas at least some gamers will already be using a 9000-series-compatible AM5 motherboard. And even if you’re not already using an AM5 board, you can pick up one for pretty cheap. The cheapest LGA 1851 motherboard for I could find at Amazon, for example, is $180<\/a>, but you can pick up an AM5 board for as cheap as $70 at Amazon<\/a>.<\/p>\n

If the 9800X3D can remain that much cheaper than Intel’s mediocre flagship and do so with tons of cache for what’s sure to be some pretty impressive gaming performance, and has a cheaper platform cost to boot, what are we meant to conclude about Arrow Lake and its price point?<\/p>\n

It’s hard to be interested in processors so mediocre for gaming, especially in light of newer, cheaper, potentially faster options from AMD. Given the somewhat initially disappointing gen-on-gen improvements of the 9000-series\u2014”Zen 5%”, anyone?\u2014the fact that it looks so much more appealing than Arrow Lake really says something against the Intel chips.<\/p>\n

The only way the Core Ultra 200S line-up will be a reasonable option for PC gamers is if there are price cuts. And they’ll have to be some pretty significant ones, at that.<\/p>\n<\/article>\n

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Jacob Fox, hardware writer (Image credit: Jacob Fox) This week I’ve been: Hardware nerd by day, philosopher by night, as I’ve been rushing to get my Ph.D. thesis finished for its fast-approaching deadline. Oh, and refreshing Amazon pages for some peripherals and other doodads I’m on the lookout for, ever-hopeful and ever-disappointed by UK deal prices. It’s been a long time coming but we now have official confirmation of the AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, AMD’s first 9000-series 3D V-Cache CPU. We’ve been told all sorts, including core count, clock speed, TDP, and the fact that the processor will sit on its cache rather than donning it like a hat. Oh, and we’ve been told its price: $479. That’s $30 more than the AMD Ryzen 7…<\/p>\n

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