{"id":1016875,"date":"2026-01-12T05:09:43","date_gmt":"2026-01-12T05:09:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.polygon.com\/?p=471328"},"modified":"2026-01-12T05:09:43","modified_gmt":"2026-01-12T05:09:43","slug":"venom-the-last-dance-omitted-the-greatest-thor-cameo-in-ancient-literature","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/arcader.org\/news\/venom-the-last-dance-omitted-the-greatest-thor-cameo-in-ancient-literature\/","title":{"rendered":"Venom: The Last Dance omitted the greatest Thor cameo in ancient literature"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Very early in the runtime of Venom: The Last Dance<\/a><\/em>, the villainous Knull (Andy Serkis) monologues about his origin for the audience, explaining that an ancient encounter with a god of light caused him to lose his iron grip on the symbiote species he\u2019d created<\/a>. The reference gave me a sensible chuckle<\/a>: If not for the arbitrary divisions of studio licensing, that line absolutely would have involved a cameo from the MCU version of Thor<\/a> \u2014 and also a flash to the epic of Beowulf.<\/p>\n

In conceiving the movie\u2019s shadowy villain, director and co-writer Kelly Marcel pulled from the heavy-metal stylings of Donny Cates and Ryan Stegman\u2019s 2018 run on Marvel Comics\u2019 Venom<\/em><\/a>, which introduced Knull, the ancient and overthrown god of the symbiotes, as a slow-burn antagonist. We\u2019ve already talked about Knull\u2019s comic book origin story<\/a> and his signature weapon, All-Black the Necrosword<\/a>, in all its \u201cairbrushed on the side of a van\u201d glory. But one of the ways Cates and Stegman really gave Knull a dose of comic book magic was by skillfully knitting him into some equally heavy-metal Thor moments.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Take All-Black, for example. Created by Jason Aaron and Esad Ribi\u0107 in 2013, the sword began its existence as the signature weapon of Thor villain Gorr the God Butcher<\/a>. It was a mutable blade that served as both weapon and armor. In Aaron and Ribi\u0107\u2019s story (later echoed in the early going of Thor: Love and Thunder<\/a><\/em>), Gorr wrested All-Black from the hands of an unconscious, unnamed god. Cates and Stegman\u2019s story revealed that said ancient, unknown god had been Knull.\u00a0<\/p>\n

But we\u2019re here to talk about Thor, specifically, and his pivotal role in both the history of the Venom<\/em>-series symbiotes and the history of epic poetry. As related in the very first arc of Cates and Stegman\u2019s Venom<\/em>, Knull\u2019s downfall began when he brought two massive, monster-shaped symbiote forms to a 6th-century mead hall in what is now Denmark, to prey on the humans there. Fortunately for those humans (and Knull\u2019s symbiotes) that\u2019s where he met a protector god who dealt him a blow so great that it severed the symbiote species from his mind control.<\/p>\n

That\u2019s what Knull is talking about in Venom: The Last Dance<\/em> when he says that he met a god of light. But Sony Pictures lacks the rights to most properties used in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and the Venom films (minus some credits scenes<\/a>) don\u2019t take place in that setting. So what Knull can\u2019t mention, and Last Dance<\/em> can\u2019t show, is that the god of light was a young Thor.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\"\u201cBut<\/p>\n

It was Thor\u2019s divine lightning that smacked those two symbiote monsters so hard that it forced Knull to release the symbiote hivemind from his control, allowing them to freely bond with other sentient creatures and develop the will to overthrow their creator. And according to Cates and Stegman\u2019s Venom<\/em>, Thor\u2019s resounding defeat of those two symbiote dragons \u2014 which the Danes had named Grendel and Grendel\u2019s Mother \u2014 was turned, by retelling, into the epic of Beowulf<\/em><\/a>.\u00a0<\/p>\n

This might not seem particularly material to Venom: The Last Dance<\/em>, which uses Knull rather sparingly, as if saving him for a future movie that might or might not ever happen. But on the other hand: What\u2019s not to like? It\u2019s the best kind of deep-cut character intertwining that interconnected comics settings can provide. It\u2019s a brief and epic moment of confluence \u2014 Thor, the young God of Thunder, laying the smackdown on a eons-old god of the void, and inadvertently creating a free symbiote species and a pillar of ancient human literature at the same time.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Venom: The Last Dance<\/em> couldn\u2019t have a Thor cameo, but now you know there\u2019s one hiding in Knull\u2019s comics lore, and it\u2019s silly. It\u2019s operatic. It\u2019s metal as hell. It\u2019s exactly the kind of comic book \u201cfun fact\u201d that will make your eyes cross if you think about it too long. And it deserves to be airbrushed on the side of a van. <\/p>\n

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Very early in the runtime of Venom: The Last Dance, the villainous Knull (Andy Serkis) monologues about his origin for the audience, explaining that an ancient encounter with a god of light caused him to lose his iron grip on the symbiote species he\u2019d created. The reference gave me a sensible chuckle: If not for the arbitrary divisions of studio licensing, that line absolutely would have involved a cameo from the MCU version of Thor \u2014 and also a flash to the epic of Beowulf. In conceiving the movie\u2019s shadowy villain, director and co-writer Kelly Marcel pulled from the heavy-metal stylings of Donny Cates and Ryan Stegman\u2019s 2018 run on Marvel Comics\u2019 Venom, which introduced Knull, the ancient and overthrown god of the symbiotes, as…<\/p>\n

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